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Phillies mull trade for Halladay's replacement

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07:06 AM ET 05.07 | The day after things went officially sideways for Roy Halladay, Charlie Manuel held no ill will toward his one-time ace. "I would never tell you I couldn't play," Manuel said. "So, yeah, I could understand that." ... The Phillies were in a holding pattern Monday. They placed Halladay on the disabled list and summoned lefthanded reliever Joe Savery as an extra bullpen arm until a decision is rendered on Halladay's replacement. ... [Ruben Amaro Jr.] Amaro said Halladay's replacement, in the short term, will come from within the Phillies organization. If Halladay's absence is long, Amaro said, he might explore an outside solution. "There's some players we'll keep an eye out on," Amaro said.

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May 7, 2013  07:54 AM ET

This is hard to watch.

May 7, 2013  08:18 AM ET

.....big relief....for awhile there i was thinkin the phillies/haaladay are old, washed up, overrated, etc....but he will surely return to the top as will the phillies with their all savvy, all star veteran lineup, who knows how to win the right ways, etc.,....

May 7, 2013  08:24 AM ET

What is the problem? It shouldn't be that hard to replace a guy with an 8.65 ERA .Try the bullpen catcher.

May 7, 2013  08:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

What is the problem? It shouldn't be that hard to replace a guy with an 8.65 ERA .Try the bullpen catcher.

Maybe they can lure Steve Carlton out of his armored bunker in CO?

May 7, 2013  08:49 AM ET

The Phils are going to pay the price for not developing young arms ready to take over for the veterans on the their staff.

May 7, 2013  09:06 AM ET

Anyone will be able to replace the 8.65 ERA. Replacing what the Phils thought they were going to get from Halladay coming into the season will be impossible.

May 7, 2013  09:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

The Phils are going to pay the price for not developing young arms ready to take over for the veterans on the their staff.

Amen ! Ruben Amaro Jr has got to go. He took them from a powerhouse to the outhouse.

May 7, 2013  09:41 AM ET

It's not looking too good for Doc right now. I've always been a fan of his, except when he was beating us and I hope he's able to bounce back.

May 7, 2013  09:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

What is the problem? It shouldn't be that hard to replace a guy with an 8.65 ERA .Try the bullpen catcher.

A little respect plse. Between 2001 and 2011 Roy Halladay was the best pitcher in baseball. If this is the end, well done Doc.

May 7, 2013  09:55 AM ET

What do the phills have to offer to get that starter? If Halliday has to have it could be bad news for Halliday if he has to have surgery to repair shoulder. I have seen several pitchers have shoulder surgery and with a long rehab try to pitch. some pitch for a short time but shoulder didn't hold up . Alot of pitchers never make it back, especially in their mid thities. Some that did come back from shouler surgery was Pete Schourek with the Reds.He was with the Mets when he had shoulder surgery to repair rotator cuff early in the season. The Mets releasedhim and the reds claimed him off waivers. Schourek won 20 games for Reds that first years the Following year he struggledthrough most of the year losing al most twice as many as he won. found ot later that year his shoulder would need more surgery.

May 7, 2013  10:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

A little respect plse. Between 2001 and 2011 Roy Halladay was the best pitcher in baseball. If this is the end, well done Doc.

OK, but in 2012 and this year he is cashing $40 million for his work. I don't see him telling his employers to keep any of it.

Best? You can make that argument in a subjective way, not win totals though or post season performance.

May 7, 2013  10:05 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

What do the phills have to offer to get that starter?

They don't without setting themselves back in the future. Free agency over the winter is their best bet. The $20 million a year they have been paying Halladay can be used their , 2014 is an option year on his contract.

May 7, 2013  10:06 AM ET

Depending on what they find with his shoulder,shoulder that can be cured with treatment and rehab Halliday could be back soon and fine. If he has to have surgery to repair shoulder hen it is possible Halliday's career could be over. At best it will be next season before he could pitch again Philly should be cautiously optimistic about Halliday pitching again. philly should be looking at optios to replace Halliday for rest of this year. Do the phillies have any pitching in farm system?

May 7, 2013  10:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

What is the problem? It shouldn't be that hard to replace a guy with an 8.65 ERA .Try the bullpen catcher.

<rim shot>

May 7, 2013  10:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

It's not looking too good for Doc right now. I've always been a fan of his, except when he was beating us and I hope he's able to bounce back.

Ditto! I also.... hope this isn't the end for Doc. Doesn't look too good right now though.

May 7, 2013  10:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

OK, but in 2012 and this year he is cashing $40 million for his work. I don't see him telling his employers to keep any of it. Best? You can make that argument in a subjective way, not win totals though or post season performance.

When Halladay averaged a nine million a year in 2001 thru 2008 with Toronto and was an absolute pitching stud I don't remember the Blue Jays throwing in some extra cash for the effort. A contract is a contract.

As for subjective, it's subjective with very compelling facts. Halladay's statistics are by far the best in baseball in that run and that's without even accounting for pitching 9 of those 11 years in the AL East. Halladay's first 2 years in Philly give a hint what his numbers would have been had he pitched in the NL his whole career, essentially a sub 2.50 ERA.

May 7, 2013  11:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

When Halladay averaged a nine million a year in 2001 thru 2008 with Toronto and was an absolute pitching stud I don't remember the Blue Jays throwing in some extra cash for the effort. A contract is a contract.As for subjective, it's subjective with very compelling facts. Halladay's statistics are by far the best in baseball in that run and that's without even accounting for pitching 9 of those 11 years in the AL East. Halladay's first 2 years in Philly give a hint what his numbers would have been had he pitched in the NL his whole career, essentially a sub 2.50 ERA.

Agreed.......tough way to see him go if it is,in fact, all over.

May 7, 2013  12:07 PM ET

Halladay, Lee, Hamels: zip, nada, zilch, bupkis, at least the Braves were able to win 1 championship.

May 7, 2013  12:58 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Halladay's statistics are by far the best in baseball in that run and that's without even accounting for pitching 9 of those 11 years in the AL East. Halladay's first 2 years in Philly give a hint what his numbers would have been had he pitched in the NL his whole career, essentially a sub 2.50 ERA.

Whoa Buck, bold statement , but incorrect:

CC Sabathia stats comparable and better in some ways. won/lost record with mediocre Cleveland and then Toronto/Mil.

Pitching ( not defined as a starter/releiver) . Mariano Rivera. Best. Period. Same time period and six years before added to it....

foolish to argue about him.

 
May 7, 2013  01:09 PM ET

Bottom line-- this red=headed Rube was not honest with his team and now they get to pay the price--- No one cares---- everyone expects philly to be a LOSER...

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