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07:09 AM ET 05.07 | Johnny Manziel may be going back to class this semester at Texas A&M, but some wonder about his football future. [Manziel] might be the best player in college football, but that doesn't make him an elite NFL prospect. In fact, I believe the Heisman Trophy winner currently projects more like a marginal pro, based on his unimpressive physical dimensions and unrefined game as a pocket passer. ... [Elite] NFL quarterback prospects possess three or four blue-chip traits (from a list that includes size, athleticism, arm talent, leadership skills, clutch factor, intelligence and pocket-passing skills) that validate their status as potential franchise players. I've studied the Texas A&M star's 2012 game tape, and I simply don't believe that he has enough of those qualities.

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May 7, 2013  08:28 AM ET

That's what they said about Tim Tebow and look at.....never mind

May 7, 2013  09:11 AM ET

NFL teams have drafted tons of star college QBs who never did anything in the pros.

May 7, 2013  09:12 AM ET

Timmy Football?

May 7, 2013  09:28 AM ET

I actually agree with this. I've heard alot of mention of wait until Manziel comes out...he'll be a #1 pick....etc... I just don't see it. I see him going the route of alot of previous "running QB's" from back in the day. Although in today's NFL, those guys are getting more chances than they used to, but it still hasn't worked out.

May 7, 2013  09:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

NFL teams have drafted tons of star college QBs who never did anything in the pros.

And vice versa, they've drafted guys who were not greatly impressive in the collegiate game, and turned into stellar pros.

May 7, 2013  10:01 AM ET
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And vice versa, they've drafted guys who were not greatly impressive in the collegiate game, and turned into stellar pros.

Tom Brady, 6th round

C'mon, this kid is just a sophomore and won the Heisman as a freakin' freshman and this clown is already convinced he can't play in the NFL? Give me break.

May 7, 2013  10:13 AM ET
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Tom Brady, 6th roundC'mon, this kid is just a sophomore and won the Heisman as a freakin' freshman and this clown is already convinced he can't play in the NFL? Give me break.

Read the article in it's entirety. He lays out a compelling argument. The one intangible that can't be measured though is a players heart.

May 7, 2013  10:14 AM ET

Tony Romo undrafted.

I know folks have issues with him....I do as well...but to go undrafted to starter for the Cowboys is a very good accomplishment.

May 7, 2013  10:16 AM ET
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Tom Brady, 6th roundC'mon, this kid is just a sophomore and won the Heisman as a freakin' freshman and this clown is already convinced he can't play in the NFL? Give me break.

LMFAO, come on dude, you are comparing "one" guy, Brady a 6th round draft pick out of how many 6th round draft picks. Tom Brady was/is not your normal 6th round draft pick!!! :-)

May 7, 2013  10:18 AM ET
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Tony Romo undrafted.I know folks have issues with him....I do as well...but to go undrafted to starter for the Cowboys is a very good accomplishment.

Good point!!! Any NFL starting QB, "is a very good accomplishment"!!!!!

May 7, 2013  10:20 AM ET
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NFL teams have drafted tons of star college QBs who never did anything in the pros.

Too many to name!!!!!!!

May 7, 2013  10:25 AM ET

Eric Crouch, Jason White, Doug Flutie. College Heismans, Great college players. Not built for the NFL. Manziel is just like that.

May 7, 2013  10:30 AM ET
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Too many to name!!!!!!!

Gary Beban, Steve Spurrier, Pat Sullivan.....

May 7, 2013  10:40 AM ET

Didn't think his high school game would translate to college so place your bets at your own risk.

May 7, 2013  10:44 AM ET
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Gary Beban, Steve Spurrier, Pat Sullivan.....

Terry Baker!!! I'm really going back!!!! :-)

May 7, 2013  10:53 AM ET

Athleticism...check, clutch factor...check, intelligence...check, leadership...check. There's your 3 to 4 blue chip traits.

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May 7, 2013  10:57 AM ET

I have seen Manziel play in person 5 times now, including the recent Texas A&M spring game. He is TRULY a gifted athlete with a skill set unlike almost anyone else that has played college QB in my 50+ years. Whatever they list him in terms of height and weight, I can confirm that he is MAYBE 6'0" and definitely less than 200 lbs. However, he is legitimately a 4.3 40 guy and has LATERAL quickness and vision that remind me of Barry Sanders. In addition, his passing (both arm strength and accuracy) continue to improve substantially. He was not allowed to run in the spring game so LB's could all drop back into coverage and he still completed just about everything he threw and the few he didn't complete were flat out drops by the receivers. All of this being said, I have to agree with the writer at this point. However, let's see how RG3 and Russell Wilson do in their sophomore NFL campaigns. If they continue to have success, the NFL "model" for QB's WILL change and perhaps the traditional drop back, immobile, 6'4" and up guys will be the ones with "marginal pro prospects" in the future. Hey. maybe we can convert them to TE's???

 
May 7, 2013  11:14 AM ET

Way too early for the writer to make a call like that. I saw four home games last year and watched the rest that were televised. By his own criteria, Johnny Football has five out the seven blue-chip traits he listed. Can't do much about his size even though he was freshman last year. (How many starting QB's in NFL history at or under 6'0"?). Coach Sumlin will be working on his pocking passing as a new wrinkle in the game plan. Didn't need it last year. Suggestion, writer should get more experience and put down the bong before analyzing game tape.

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