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Notre Dame ducking Michigan? It's complicated

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07:15 AM ET 05.16 | May can be a tough month for college sports fans, something that Jack Swarbrick alluded to on Wednesday. [Swarbrick] didn't look like he had chickened out. "You know it's a slow news day when you guys start telling me stuff that's said in booster clubs," the Notre Dame AD said Wednesday. ... [Brady Hoke] said recently Notre Dame "chickened out" when it chose to end the series with the Wolverines. "We all recognize that stuff you say at a booster club or a pep rally generally [can be like that]," Swarbrick said. "I take no umbrage at what someone says at either of those two functions." ... It sounds like Notre Dame would have had to make a choice in dropping Navy, USC or Stanford to make room for Michigan. That wasn't happening.

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May 16, 2013  08:25 AM ET

"Not our rival! clap! clap! clap-clap-clap!"

May 16, 2013  08:38 AM ET
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Of course they are ducking them, no matter how you spin it.

and the reason would be...?

May 16, 2013  08:53 AM ET
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and the reason would be...?

Series record? The fact that Hoke is building a MACHINE and Kelly has been exposed as a loose-cannon coach? Tired of seeing hotter cheerleaders on the opposition's sidelines?

I don't know, take your pick Gariboy....

May 16, 2013  08:55 AM ET
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Of course they are ducking them, no matter how you spin it.

Seems pretty obvious they are and that they prefer playing "Little Brother" from the state of Michigan where they have better odds of winning..........

<envisions Kelly bringing back a Faustlike schedule playing all the armed forces...........lol>

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May 16, 2013  09:24 AM ET

Everyone wants to play Notre Dame.

May 16, 2013  09:24 AM ET
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Series record? The fact that Hoke is building a MACHINE and Kelly has been exposed as a loose-cannon coach? Tired of seeing hotter cheerleaders on the opposition's sidelines?I don't know, take your pick Gariboy....

I realize that you are joking PU but let me give you a little history lesson. ND has played USC every year since 1926 (with the exception of the war years). There have been periods in the rivalry where ND has lost several years in a row to the Trojans (most recently 8 in a row from 2002 to 2009). On the other hand, Notre Dame has a record of 16-23 against Michigan but 8 of those Michigan wins came before 1909. Since the two schools renewed their rivalry in 1978 ND has won 16 Michigan 14 with one tie. Would it not make sense to you (and the other Big Blue fans who have had their feelings hurt by ND's decision) that ND would drop USC before Michigan if they were concerned about their recent success against a team? ND - Michigan has been a great series but it is not a true "rivalry" to either of them. Let me close by asking you this...would Michigan consider dropping Michigan State or Ohio State to keep ND on their schedule? Bueller...? Bueller...?

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May 16, 2013  09:39 AM ET

And why is the ridiculous navy-notre dame game a schedule "untouchable"?

May 16, 2013  09:48 AM ET
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And why is the ridiculous navy-notre dame game a schedule "untouchable"?

Any other ND fan care to enlighten sage on the importance of the rivalry and how the generosity of the Naval Academy played into it...?

May 16, 2013  09:48 AM ET
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Series record? The fact that Hoke is building a MACHINE and Kelly has been exposed as a loose-cannon coach? Tired of seeing hotter cheerleaders on the opposition's sidelines?I don't know, take your pick Gariboy....

If hotter cheerleaders was part of the criteria, they would have dropped us.

May 16, 2013  09:53 AM ET
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I realize that you are joking PU but let me give you a little history lesson. ND has played USC every year since 1926 (with the exception of the war years). There have been periods in the rivalry where ND has lost several years in a row to the Trojans (most recently 8 in a row from 2002 to 2009). On the other hand, Notre Dame has a record of 16-23 against Michigan but 8 of those Michigan wins came before 1909. Since the two schools renewed their rivalry in 1978 ND has won 16 Michigan 14 with one tie. Would it not make sense to you (and the other Big Blue fans who have had their feelings hurt by ND's decision) that ND would drop USC before Michigan if they were concerned about their recent success against a team? ND - Michigan has been a great series but it is not a true "rivalry" to either of them. Let me close by asking you this...would Michigan consider dropping Michigan State or Ohio State to keep ND on their schedule? Bueller...? Bueller...?

+100 Lets not also forget Navy, Purdue and Michigan State also have a much longer tradition of playing ND than Michigan does.

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May 16, 2013  10:10 AM ET
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Any other ND fan care to enlighten sage on the importance of the rivalry and how the generosity of the Naval Academy played into it...?

"Generosity".........its a give me win for ND......Why it fits ND schedule, instead of a bigger program like Michigan who could actually beat them.

May 16, 2013  10:14 AM ET
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Any other ND fan care to enlighten sage on the importance of the rivalry and how the generosity of the Naval Academy played into it...?

Nah .. he is likely too stupid to understand such things and it has already been explained ad nauseum in this forum

May 16, 2013  10:36 AM ET

I'm a Michigan alum (and an Air Force Academy alum as well) and am sad to see the ND game go, but even I know why Navy is untouchable. From our friends at Wiki: "Notre Dame, like many colleges, faced severe financial difficulties during World War II. The US Navy made Notre Dame a training center and paid enough for usage of the facilities to keep the University afloat. Notre Dame has since extended an open invitation for Navy to play the Fighting Irish in football and considers the game annual repayment on a debt of honor."

May 16, 2013  10:38 AM ET
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If hotter cheerleaders was part of the criteria, they would have dropped us.

The truest thing you've ever said here.

May 16, 2013  10:40 AM ET
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I'm a Michigan alum (and an Air Force Academy alum as well) and am sad to see the ND game go, but even I know why Navy is untouchable. From our friends at Wiki: "Notre Dame, like many colleges, faced severe financial difficulties during World War II. The US Navy made Notre Dame a training center and paid enough for usage of the facilities to keep the University afloat. Notre Dame has since extended an open invitation for Navy to play the Fighting Irish in football and considers the game annual repayment on a debt of honor."

Well done. Of course he probably thinks a Notre Dame alum just snuck on to Wiki and posted that.

 
May 16, 2013  10:49 AM ET
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If hotter cheerleaders was part of the criteria, they would have dropped us.

An excellent point Ice...!

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