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Texas A&M president: Longhorns no longer relevant to us

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08:27 AM ET 06.01 | A reporter asked Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin at the close of the SEC meetings in Destin if he wanted to give a one-liner about Texas.He did, intentionally or not. "I don't have to make it anymore," Loftin said of A&M's former Big 12 rival, as he walked away. "It's not relevant to us anymore, that's the whole point. It's not an important issue." A&M is wrapping up its first year in the SEC, taking home its $20.7 million payout from the league for the first time. The figure is expected to soar after the SEC Network launches in 2014. Loftin said he appreciates the equity in the SEC. In the Big 12, new members TCU and West Virginia are not fully vested. A&M is riding high after its 11-2 debut football season and quarterback Johnny Manziel winning the Heisman Trophy. During conference meetings a year ago, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said the SEC had only gained a sliver of East Texas with the addition of A&M. Loftin had responded that he believed Texas was now SEC territory.

Dallas Morning News

Dr. R. Bowen Loftin, Aaron M. Sprecher/Getty Images Dr. R. Bowen Loftin, Aaron M. Sprecher/Getty Images
June 1, 2013  08:42 AM ET

It's all Bevo's fault.

June 1, 2013  08:48 AM ET

Gee and Bowen ... both wear bowties.

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June 1, 2013  10:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

You're still talking about them. They are still relevant.

I'll care when Stoops and Castiglione say it

June 1, 2013  11:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I'll care when Stoops and Castiglione say it

As a Spartan fan, I can put myself in the shoes of the Aggies quite easily (though I have no fondness for sheep). I suspect if MSU ever parted with the B1G, most TSUN fans would not care too much. Please note that I do not think MSU will ever leave the B1G. But if a break up ever occurred, we wouldn't be missed that much.

June 1, 2013  11:27 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

As a Spartan fan, I can put myself in the shoes of the Aggies quite easily (though I have no fondness for sheep). I suspect if MSU ever parted with the B1G, most TSUN fans would not care too much. Please note that I do not think MSU will ever leave the B1G. But if a break up ever occurred, we wouldn't be missed that much.

I think your're right. Tell me this as a MSU fan.

You know that Mich-OSU is the big deal since WWII, and that TSUN prob looks down on you a bit, and considers it more of a nuisance than rival. There's no real big deal for them to beat you, but it might make your season the other way. Am I wrong?

I've always thought aTm and MSU were in very similar circumstances.

June 1, 2013  11:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

As a Spartan fan, I can put myself in the shoes of the Aggies quite easily (though I have no fondness for sheep). I suspect if MSU ever parted with the B1G, most TSUN fans would not care too much. Please note that I do not think MSU will ever leave the B1G. But if a break up ever occurred, we wouldn't be missed that much.

I miss the annal Thanksgiving day rivalry game. That was special. But I absolutely do not miss the bitching that came from their perpetual second class citizen mentality. It served to drain all the fun out of the rivalry for me.

My best friend (RIP) was an Aggie, member of the corps, and he focused on the longhorns more than his alma mater.

June 1, 2013  11:38 AM ET

Money killed the Southwest Conference, and money was at the heart of this "breakup".

UT once again got the $. And just where is that Longhorn network now? I can't seem to find it on Dish...

June 1, 2013  11:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Money killed the Southwest Conference, and money was at the heart of this "breakup".UT once again got the $. And just where is that Longhorn network now? I can't seem to find it on Dish...

The "breakup" had little to do with money, other than aTm wanting what UTx was generating. It'll be great for aTm, if they won't fixate west again. Instead of looking at a season as a whole with 11 other games. And, cheating and Arky's anti-Texas mentality is what really killed the SWC. SMU, TCU and aTm were on probation the majority of the final decade.

LHN is doing quite well. In about 20mil homes, generating about $90MM/yr.

Dish is also lacking PACTV and will be missing SECTV. They learned from BTN that it doesn't fit their model. Same reason why TimeWarner refused to air NFL network for 5 years.

June 1, 2013  11:57 AM ET

Loftin is absolutely correct. They aren't relevant to us (at least, not moreso than anyone else), no matter how much they want to believe otherwise.

June 1, 2013  12:03 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

I think your're right. Tell me this as a MSU fan.You know that Mich-OSU is the big deal since WWII, and that TSUN prob looks down on you a bit, and considers it more of a nuisance than rival. There's no real big deal for them to beat you, but it might make your season the other way. Am I wrong?I've always thought aTm and MSU were in very similar circumstances.

Some of this is true, but it is skewed by MSU struggling after Duffy Daugherty retired. In the fifties and sixties, MSU won six national titles in CFB. Michigan reclaimed top dog status when Schembechler turned their program around as Duffy was leaving the scene. I don't know much about Texas -Texas A&M relations, but Michigan fought against MSU joining the Big Ten for years. There is a deep bitterness that Spartans feel towards Michigan, that quite frankly most Michigan fans don't understand.

June 1, 2013  12:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

You're still talking about them. They are still relevant.

LOL, this has to be "the comment of the day"!!!! Good job!!!

June 1, 2013  12:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

As a Spartan fan, I can put myself in the shoes of the Aggies quite easily (though I have no fondness for sheep). I suspect if MSU ever parted with the B1G, most TSUN fans would not care too much. Please note that I do not think MSU will ever leave the B1G. But if a break up ever occurred, we wouldn't be missed that much.

Good point!!!! It's funny that Texas A&M wasn't all that much before they entered the SEC, now they had one good season and they seem to think they are "top dog"!!!!! :-)

June 1, 2013  12:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Some of this is true, but it is skewed by MSU struggling after Duffy Daugherty retired. In the fifties and sixties, MSU won six national titles in CFB. Michigan reclaimed top dog status when Schembechler turned their program around as Duffy was leaving the scene. I don't know much about Texas -Texas A&M relations, but Michigan fought against MSU joining the Big Ten for years. There is a deep bitterness that Spartans feel towards Michigan, that quite frankly most Michigan fans don't understand.

For UTx and aTm, it more of a 20's-30's thing. It was a rivalry for both until the 40's. Together, both had rights to claim 8-10 MNC during that time. If you look at the history, it was about 50/50 in W/L until the 40's, since UTx won about 7/10.

It coincided with a complete reversal with OU. When Bud Wilkinson went to OU, the winning % went opposite of aTm's, and thus the rivalry shifted. UTx won about 70% before his arrival and its been about 50/50 since; and a true rivalry.

To my, that is the what has been the issues with aTm. They were always trying to say they were equal with UTx because of the founding of the schools, but when the Horn fan-base turned their backs on the rivalry and concentrated on the RRR, it came across as a jilted lover.

June 1, 2013  12:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

For UTx and aTm, it more of a 20's-30's thing. It was a rivalry for both until the 40's. Together, both had rights to claim 8-10 MNC during that time. If you look at the history, it was about 50/50 in W/L until the 40's, since UTx won about 7/10. It coincided with a complete reversal with OU. When Bud Wilkinson went to OU, the winning % went opposite of aTm's, and thus the rivalry shifted. UTx won about 70% before his arrival and its been about 50/50 since; and a true rivalry. To my, that is the what has been the issues with aTm. They were always trying to say they were equal with UTx because of the founding of the schools, but when the Horn fan-base turned their backs on the rivalry and concentrated on the RRR, it came across as a jilted lover.

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June 1, 2013  04:47 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

You're still talking about them. They are still relevant.

Read the article again....he wasn't talking about them but rather responding to a question posed by a reporter.

June 1, 2013  04:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

In the fifties and sixties, MSU won six national titles in CFB.

Really?
I see you subscribe to the Alabama school of thought when counting your national titles!

June 1, 2013  04:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

For UTx and aTm, it more of a 20's-30's thing. It was a rivalry for both until the 40's. Together, both had rights to claim 8-10 MNC during that time.

Huh?
You'd better look more closely....
UTx in 1914 and 1941
aTm in 1919, 1927, 1939

That's nowhere near 8-10 championships.
This Alabama thing must be contagious.

June 1, 2013  05:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Really?I see you subscribe to the Alabama school of thought when counting your national titles!

All MSU titles were awarded by national press organizations relevant at that time.

 
June 1, 2013  05:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

You're still talking about them. They are still relevant.

He was just answering a question, not starting a discussion about them.

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