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07:06 AM ET 06.06 | A day after it was reported that he wouldn't be shocked if the Phillies dealt him at the trade deadline, Cliff Lee said his first choice was to remain in Philadelphia. "Yeah, this is where I signed as a free agent and this is where I want to be," said Lee, who is in the third season of a five-year deal that guarantees him $62.5 million beyond this season. "But I definitely want to win, there's no doubt about that. That's the main thing." That, of course, is also the main reason Lee opted to sign with the Phillies as a free agent before the 2011 season. He expected the team to contend every season while he was here, but since the Phillies won a club-record 102 games in his first season, the team has struggled to play .500 baseball.

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June 6, 2013  08:16 AM ET

....not as good as he was a few years ago....pitching in the worst division in baseball.....phillies will need to eat most of it if they want a prospect back...

June 6, 2013  08:17 AM ET

In the Air Force, my first choice was Hawaii. They gave me Sacremento. I swapped with a dude and settled for Abilene, Texas.


I still got to go to Hawaii, though. Three weeks.




High five for Abilene!

June 6, 2013  08:27 AM ET
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In the Air Force, my first choice was Hawaii. They gave me Sacremento. I swapped with a dude and settled for Abilene, Texas. I still got to go to Hawaii, though. Three weeks. High five for Abilene!

Spent time at Dyess, huh?

June 6, 2013  09:15 AM ET
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Spent time at Dyess, huh?

Yup... in a MAC outfit. Stationed there for 3.2 years and spent about half of that actually on the premises.

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June 6, 2013  09:55 AM ET

He's not going anywhere....

June 6, 2013  10:17 AM ET

Keep the 3 horsemen somehow! Lee, Hamels & Halladay! Lee is built for durability. Anyone old enough to remember Nolan Ryan? I know you heard of Roger Clemens (aside from accusations). These two guys were built for durability. Lee is a keeper if you want any future success. Restructure Lee & Halladay's contracts - and get another season or two from them. These anchor pitchers Philly needs to make a run. Send Howard to St. Louis, he's from there - get a pitching prospect and either an outfielder or 3rd baseman for him!

June 6, 2013  10:27 AM ET

No one else was willing to pay Lee 25 million per year when the Phillies signed him. Why would they pay him 25 Million per year (+ the potential buy out of 12.5) and give the Phillies a boat load of top talent? This will either be salary dump with low level prospects in return or Philly will eat some of that money. I don't see them getting a bunch of top prospects in a straight trade.

I think he stays where he is.

June 6, 2013  10:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Keep the 3 horsemen somehow! Lee, Hamels & Halladay! Lee is built for durability. Anyone old enough to remember Nolan Ryan? I know you heard of Roger Clemens (aside from accusations). These two guys were built for durability. Lee is a keeper if you want any future success. Restructure Lee & Halladay's contracts - and get another season or two from them. These anchor pitchers Philly needs to make a run. Send Howard to St. Louis, he's from there - get a pitching prospect and either an outfielder or 3rd baseman for him!

There is no way in hell Saint Louis takes that horrible Howard contract. Besides, they already have a logjam at first with Craig and Adams.

June 6, 2013  10:56 AM ET
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In the Air Force, my first choice was Hawaii. They gave me Sacremento. I swapped with a dude and settled for Abilene, Texas.

You opted for Abilene over Sacramento?

Abilene: birthplace of John Lackey.

June 6, 2013  11:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Keep the 3 horsemen somehow! Lee, Hamels & Halladay! Lee is built for durability. Anyone old enough to remember Nolan Ryan? I know you heard of Roger Clemens (aside from accusations). These two guys were built for durability. Lee is a keeper if you want any future success. Restructure Lee & Halladay's contracts - and get another season or two from them. These anchor pitchers Philly needs to make a run. Send Howard to St. Louis, he's from there - get a pitching prospect and either an outfielder or 3rd baseman for him!

Built for durability? Two years ago, you could have said the same thing about Roy Halladay. Even more so. Now? Not so much.

Ryan Howard? What team would want him? He's a poor fielding, below-average hitter who is due a king's ransom over the next few years.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, Halladay's goose looks cooked.

June 6, 2013  11:03 AM ET
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There is no way in hell Saint Louis takes that horrible Howard contract. Besides, they already have a logjam at first with Craig and Adams.

It seems that only a handful out of every 100 Philly fans have anything more than a tenuous grasp on reality.

June 6, 2013  12:04 PM ET
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It seems that only a handful out of every 100 Philly fans have anything more than a tenuous grasp on reality.

That would still be higher than just about every other city in the country. The sad part is, the rest of the country chooses to believe what the news media says about Philly fans, rather than using their own brains to see what's in front of them. No one bothers reporting the full stories, and people can't see through the lazy journalism. Did we throw snowballs at Santa? Damn right we did. Does anyone report the fact that Santa was hammered drunk and was flipping off the fans, including the kids around him? Of course not...and the facts are ignored.

Please don't stereotype fans of any area, unless you've lived among them. I'll stack our passion and knowledge against any town out there.

Now, that being said, Howard isn't going anywhere, unless he chooses to retire and do Subway commercials full time. It was an awful contract, and we're stuck with it as he declines. There's talk of trading Rollins, but he isn't producing, so who wants him? Lee may be the only asset we have that anyone else would want (aside from young guys we aren't trading). I don't want to see him go, but there may not be a choice. Sadly, Utley might not be resigned, either, especially if Hernandez plays well.

June 6, 2013  01:11 PM ET

St. Louis does have an outstanding second base prospect in Kolton Wong available because I'm pretty sure Matt Carpenter is at second to stay. I don't think St. Louis or a trade partner goes wrong with either player. Both players should not stay on the same team.

June 6, 2013  02:13 PM ET

I doubt Saint louis will seriously look at taking on Lee's contract; but, I'm getting nervous about relying on too many young starters promoted before the team wanted them brought up. It could be risky for a team that looks to go deep into the playoffs. It could also hurt the pitcher's confidence if they start getting knocked around once they've been in the league a while and the scouting reports start catching up to them.

June 6, 2013  03:28 PM ET
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That would still be higher than just about every other city in the country. The sad part is, the rest of the country chooses to believe what the news media says about Philly fans, rather than using their own brains to see what's in front of them. No one bothers reporting the full stories, and people can't see through the lazy journalism. Did we throw snowballs at Santa? Damn right we did. Does anyone report the fact that Santa was hammered drunk and was flipping off the fans, including the kids around him? Of course not...and the facts are ignored.Please don't stereotype fans of any area, unless you've lived among them. I'll stack our passion and knowledge against any town out there.Now, that being said, Howard isn't going anywhere, unless he chooses to retire and do Subway commercials full time. It was an awful contract, and we're stuck with it as he declines. There's talk of trading Rollins, but he isn't producing, so who wants him? Lee may be the only asset we have that anyone else would want (aside from young guys we aren't trading). I don't want to see him go, but there may not be a choice. Sadly, Utley might not be resigned, either, especially if Hernandez plays well.

I didn't come to my conclusion regarding Phillies fans based on media coverage. I base it only my experience with Phillies fans that I've experienced on this site, other sites and in person.

I also completely disagree with your notion that they're better than any other city in the country as it relates to objective knowledge. It is my experience that Phillies fans are among the least knowledgeable and least objective fans in baseball.

June 6, 2013  03:30 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

I doubt Saint louis will seriously look at taking on Lee's contract; but, I'm getting nervous about relying on too many young starters promoted before the team wanted them brought up. It could be risky for a team that looks to go deep into the playoffs. It could also hurt the pitcher's confidence if they start getting knocked around once they've been in the league a while and the scouting reports start catching up to them.

That scouting report caught up to Wacha in a hurry!

June 6, 2013  03:32 PM ET
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No one bothers reporting the full stories, and people can't see through the lazy journalism.

Now that you mention it, though, what was the full story on that Phillies fan that stuck his finger down his throat so that he could puke on an off-duty police officer and his daughter?

June 6, 2013  03:57 PM ET
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That scouting report caught up to Wacha in a hurry!

It's easy to get excited when rookies do well their first couple of outings then reality comes crashing in once the very good MLB scouts start paying attention to the player. I'm sure Wacha will be a fine pitcher when he's had time to season in the minors. I'm also convinced he's not ready to be an MLB starter on a top team.

The team is in trouble if they are relying on Wacha or Lyons as the 4th or 5th starters. Either would probably be fine in the pen. The Cardinals need to add another starter. We have the prospects and a team needs to go for it when they have the shot. That window is rarely open for long, unless of course you have the seemingly unlimited budget of the Yankees.

 
June 6, 2013  04:08 PM ET
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The Cardinals need to add another starter. We have the prospects and a team needs to go for it when they have the shot. That window is rarely open for long, unless of course you have the seemingly unlimited budget of the Yankees.

I hear you. For almost all franchises, my opinion is if you think you have a legitimate shot at making the playoffs, you go for it and you don't spare the horses. I'd trade the farm because all too often, prospects don't amount to shat.

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