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07:10 AM ET 06.26 | At the very least, the Groundhog Day that is training camp will take on a new locale. For Eagles veterans, training camp at Lehigh is all they've known during their time in Philadelphia. But that will change this year as the Eagles have ended a 17-year run of preseason practices in Bethlehem, Pa. The team has opted instead to complete this season's three-week camp at its headquarters at the NovaCare Complex and Lincoln Financial Field in South Philadelphia. ... It remains to be seen what kind of camp Kelly will establish regardless of the venue. [Receiver Jason Avant] said based on previous OTAs and minicamps, the team has an idea of what a typical practice will be like. He said he hopes the preseason will be physical, what he called a "tone-setter."

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June 26, 2013  07:27 AM ET

Training camp change this year? Smaller buffet and no chocolate fountain. That moved to Kansas City.

June 26, 2013  07:36 AM ET

How much money they gonna make?

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June 26, 2013  07:53 AM ET
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How much money they gonna make?

Y'all charge for training camp, O ?

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June 26, 2013  07:58 AM ET
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Training camp change this year? Smaller buffet and no chocolate fountain. That moved to Kansas City.

Yeah, I think Kelly plans on making them carrot smoothies during camp.

June 26, 2013  08:00 AM ET
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Doesn't Danny charge you guys? Or did when he first bought the team?

Not sure when he first bought the team.... Fans who don't know any better may pay, but otherwise you can get a pass free off the website.... Now that I think about it, I'm not sure if that includes free parking.

June 26, 2013  08:07 AM ET

A receiver asking for training camp to be more physical? You don't hear that every day...

June 26, 2013  08:15 AM ET
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Y'all charge for training camp, O ?

Jerry doesn't do ANYTHING without making a buck or two. Probably a lot like Danny... getting in is free but parking and other "incidentals" certainly generate a sheckle or two for him.

June 26, 2013  08:17 AM ET

This came up 10 years ago when Daniel Snyder came up with the brilliant idea of charging admission to training camp for the skins. It turns out if you charge admission, you can't refuse admission to anybody so the other teams all sent their scouts to pay admission and watch the practices.

If it's free, for some reason, they can refuse to let select people in - aka scouts.

June 26, 2013  08:26 AM ET
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Jerry doesn't do ANYTHING without making a buck or two. Probably a lot like Danny... getting in is free but parking and other "incidentals" certainly generate a sheckle or two for him.

Word. I think they share notes when it comes to revenue.

June 26, 2013  08:27 AM ET
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This came up 10 years ago when Daniel Snyder came up with the brilliant idea of charging admission to training camp for the skins. It turns out if you charge admission, you can't refuse admission to anybody so the other teams all sent their scouts to pay admission and watch the practices.If it's free, for some reason, they can refuse to let select people in - aka scouts.

He has an early session during the day when fans can watch, then a private session in the afternoon. Only routine fade routes are usually shown to fans.

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June 26, 2013  08:44 AM ET

They should brace themselves for another 4-12 season=--= and Chippie needs to brace himself for the BOO-BIRDS... Land of the LOSERS...

June 26, 2013  08:50 AM ET

I have always found the Eagles to be a disgusting lot and if they never win another game that would be just fine with me. That said, it makes perfect sense.

The days of training camp being a substitute for boot camp to work guys in a hot sun in some forsaken corner of the Earth are long gone. Putting 320 lb. guys you pay millions to and telling them to sleep in a small college dorm room and come back ready to go at it the next day is not really industry productive procedure.

June 26, 2013  08:56 AM ET

jason avant was never known as being an "intelligent" person.... here are some crayons jason --- now shut up.

Another Rube from the Toilet of philly that can't do his talking on the field.... Ringless and Clueless one more year !!!

June 26, 2013  09:08 AM ET
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..... Putting 320 lb. guys you pay millions to and telling them to sleep in a small college dorm room and come back ready to go at it the next day is not really industry productive procedure.

The last year the Bronco's did their camp up in Fort Collins they showed the dormitory beds the team had to sleep in. The beds were about five and a half feet long.

It's funny how long the "boot camp" mentality lasted.

June 26, 2013  09:11 AM ET
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The last year the Bronco's did their camp up in Fort Collins they showed the dormitory beds the team had to sleep in. The beds were about five and a half feet long.It's funny how long the "boot camp" mentality lasted.

It is just bad business. Add in moving all of your equipment and gear and it is dumb....The extra fields to use is the only possible reason to continue the practice.

June 26, 2013  09:35 AM ET
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It is just bad business. Add in moving all of your equipment and gear and it is dumb....The extra fields to use is the only possible reason to continue the practice.

Many training facilities are state-of-the-art these days, which makes it silly to practice anywhere else. You are definitely right about the logistics of moving equipment and utilizing an imperfect space for practice.

The accommodations at the boot camp aren't ideal for players, but I see some value to taking them out of their element and removing distractions. But I'm not sure how effective you can be removing distractions in today's iPad and smart phone world.

The move makes sense for the team. The Ravens made the change in recent years. It tends to suck only for the fans.

 
June 26, 2013  10:09 AM ET
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Many training facilities are state-of-the-art these days, which makes it silly to practice anywhere else. You are definitely right about the logistics of moving equipment and utilizing an imperfect space for practice.The accommodations at the boot camp aren't ideal for players, but I see some value to taking them out of their element and removing distractions. But I'm not sure how effective you can be removing distractions in today's iPad and smart phone world.The move makes sense for the team. The Ravens made the change in recent years. It tends to suck only for the fans.

Strahan and Tuck of the Giants have stated for years that the small college dorm beds were part of the reason for their back issues. They got grief for "whining" but really, you pay a guy millions and then do things that hurt their performance? These guys are not your normal size Joe walking the streets.

I have been in small waiting rooms at airports when NBA teams are in that same room waiting for a flight. NFL guys often go 6'5" 6'7" and 260 to 320 lbs. You have to stand next to them to realize just how big these guys are. Heck Eli and Peyton are NBA size players.

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