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07:26 AM ET 07.01 | Jim Henderson pitched the eighth inning Saturday night, leading to questions Sunday for Brewers manager Ron Roenicke he's heard before: Who's your closer? "Frankie (Rodriguez) was last night," Roenicke said. "He probably would have been the last two nights. It changes with matchups. It changes with matchups, but generically, as of now, Frankie is closing." Of course, that seems to be a move to showcase Rodriguez, who has been pitching quite well, for the July 31 trading deadline. Asked what impact the trading deadline had on his decision to go with Rodriguez for now as the closer, Roenicke said, "None, not to me." Then he added the caveat, "Not until I meet with (GM) Doug (Melvin) and Doug tells me something different."

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Ron Roenicke, US Presswire Ron Roenicke, US Presswire
July 1, 2013  09:09 AM ET

The Brew Crew organization needs to take two steps back and look at where they at. In the last several years it has look like they have made desperate signings trying to keep up in the division but all have fail and now the Cubs have pass them in the standings and Roednicke will pay the price for all of their mistakes.

July 1, 2013  09:20 AM ET

I respectfully disagree completely. The Cubs have passed us because we haven't had our All Star Corey Hart all year, Ryan Braun has missed a good chunk of the first half and when he was in, his thumb, hammy and back have been bothering him the whole first half and zapped his power, Aramis Ramirez' knee has been shot since spring training and that zapped HIS power, Rickie Weeks has been in a season long slump other than the last 30 days, and Johnathon Lucroy has been slumping until semi-recently. That's our starting 2-3-4-5 and 7 hitters all pretty much the whole first half. Take anyone else's 2-3-4-5-7 hitters off their teams and anyone's season would be circling the drain.

Add that to the fact that the home grown starting pitching prospects haven't turned out nearly as planned and you have a recipe for disaster. Our problems have NOTHING to do with signings and Roenicke will NOT pay the price. He's not the problem one IOTA. If anything, the pitching coach will be taking the gas pipe, but Roenicke is as safe as can be.

July 1, 2013  11:47 AM ET

The brewers could be aimin for quality players in return for k-rod :-) :-) :-) :-)

July 1, 2013  12:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I respectfully disagree completely. The Cubs have passed us because we haven't had our All Star Corey Hart all year, Ryan Braun has missed a good chunk of the first half and when he was in, his thumb, hammy and back have been bothering him the whole first half and zapped his power, Aramis Ramirez' knee has been shot since spring training and that zapped HIS power, Rickie Weeks has been in a season long slump other than the last 30 days, and Johnathon Lucroy has been slumping until semi-recently. That's our starting 2-3-4-5 and 7 hitters all pretty much the whole first half. Take anyone else's 2-3-4-5-7 hitters off their teams and anyone's season would be circling the drain. Add that to the fact that the home grown starting pitching prospects haven't turned out nearly as planned and you have a recipe for disaster. Our problems have NOTHING to do with signings and Roenicke will NOT pay the price. He's not the problem one IOTA. If anything, the pitching coach will be taking the gas pipe, but Roenicke is as safe as can be.

No. Corey Hart doesn't matter. 1B had good production this year with Betancourt and now Francisco.

The problems for the Brewers can be traced by to Roenicke's unwillingness to shuffle those who are slumping.

Weeks batted 5th for a good portion of the season, yet he was below .200 with less than 5 HRs at the time. Weeks only started to come around once he started platooning with Gennett. That was the wake up call Weeks needed, to know his job wasn't safe and he had to perform.

Another example is John Axford. Why Roenicke is so stubborn to give up on the guy is beyond me. He's blown numerous games from both the closer and set up role. What sense does it make to remove him from the closer role, if he's still going to be pitching crucial innings in the 8th? Makes no damn sense.

As soon as Axford has a good week, Roenicke will put him right back into the set up role so he can blow more games.

Couple that stubborness with the bad starting pitching and this team is screwed.

July 1, 2013  12:08 PM ET

They should really shop Aramis Ramirez too. Its a lost season, might as well dump the 35 year old.

July 1, 2013  12:17 PM ET

Mil Town Proud-
If you really think we've gotten good production from Betancourt and Francisco, you haven't got a clue what you're watching. Betancourt yes, for about a month but he's been stuck on 8 or 9 HR's for about 2 months now and his average might actually be under .200 now where it belongs and always has been. Francisco hits an occasional HR but his average sucks and he doesn't hit enough HR's to make up for the low batting average. Plus they're both liabilities in the field.

And Corey Hart doesn't matter??? Really??? Losing a .270-.290 hitter that hits 25-30 HR's with around 75-90 RBI's for the entire season doesn't matter? Wow!! Go back under your rock. You're probably one of those 1250AM listening idiots that cry that everyone should be fired every time we lose a game.

Please do me a favor. Remove the fact that you're from Milwaukee from under your name. I don't want everyone in the country to think that everyone from this great state is an idiot and knows nothing about baseball like you do.

July 1, 2013  12:19 PM ET

I will agree with you about Ramirez though. (Woo-Hoo! We agree on something!) Even though I'd love to have him around, he's the best trade bait we have. Unfortunately with his injury sucking all of his power away, every other team knows it and we won't get nearly what we could get for him if he was healthy.

July 1, 2013  01:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

No. Corey Hart doesn't matter. 1B had good production this year with Betancourt and now Francisco.The problems for the Brewers can be traced by to Roenicke's unwillingness to shuffle those who are slumping. Weeks batted 5th for a good portion of the season, yet he was below .200 with less than 5 HRs at the time. Weeks only started to come around once he started platooning with Gennett. That was the wake up call Weeks needed, to know his job wasn't safe and he had to perform.Another example is John Axford. Why Roenicke is so stubborn to give up on the guy is beyond me. He's blown numerous games from both the closer and set up role. What sense does it make to remove him from the closer role, if he's still going to be pitching crucial innings in the 8th? Makes no damn sense.As soon as Axford has a good week, Roenicke will put him right back into the set up role so he can blow more games.Couple that stubborness with the bad starting pitching and this team is screwed.

Good Observation My Man!!!! Kind of Like Terry Collins with Ike Davis and Lucas Duda!

July 1, 2013  03:05 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Mil Town Proud-If you really think we've gotten good production from Betancourt and Francisco, you haven't got a clue what you're watching. Betancourt yes, for about a month but he's been stuck on 8 or 9 HR's for about 2 months now and his average might actually be under .200 now where it belongs and always has been. Francisco hits an occasional HR but his average sucks and he doesn't hit enough HR's to make up for the low batting average. Plus they're both liabilities in the field.And Corey Hart doesn't matter??? Really??? Losing a .270-.290 hitter that hits 25-30 HR's with around 75-90 RBI's for the entire season doesn't matter? Wow!! Go back under your rock. You're probably one of those 1250AM listening idiots that cry that everyone should be fired every time we lose a game.Please do me a favor. Remove the fact that you're from Milwaukee from under your name. I don't want everyone in the country to think that everyone from this great state is an idiot and knows nothing about baseball like you do.

Nice. You seem like the kind of guy who just looks at the season totals to make declarations.

How about this. Through May 7, Betancourt was batting .276, with 6 HR and 24 RBI. Though he wasn't the everyday 1B at the time, because Roenicke again insisted on platooning Gonzalez there as well. Why? Why waste a spot in the lineup with Gonzalez?

Anyways, Betancourt started slumping, took Roenicke a month to get him out of there and replace with Francisco, who struggled initially as well. But over the last 2 plus week, Francisco is batting 12-42 (.285) with 4 HR, and 8 RBI.

All told, its not completely horrible, and not as though Corey Hart would've certainly improved those numbers and not slumped at some point.

As for the personal attack, grow up kid. I'm watching the Brewers nearly every day, and its not just 1B thats failing to produce. Would the Brewers be better with Hart? Undoubtedly. They'd also be better if Braun and Ramirez were healthy all year long.

But blaming injuries isn't the sole reason for the Brewers record.

Bad pitching and bad managing are bigger obstacles for the Brewers to overcome at this point, and neither issue can or will be resolved unitl next year. Stubborness from Roenicke to get Weeks out of the lineup earlier and sticking with Axford dispite the fact that he's an incredibly overrated asset are the two that stick out the most.

Another is the decision to continue platooning Alex Gonzalez through the first month and a half, despite Betancourt's great month.

Another is the decision to leave Gomez at or near the bottom of the order for the better part of two months, despite him having one of the best averages in baseball during that timeframe.

I could go on, but you get the point. Roenicke sucks, and lets his preconceived notions of how the lineup should look override actual production. Its like he's playing a videogame that has each players ratings next to their name when he writes out his lineup, and actual production is dismissed in favor of how the players are supposed to perform.

 
July 1, 2013  03:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

You're probably one of those 1250AM listening idiots that cry that everyone should be fired every time we lose a game.Please do me a favor. Remove the fact that you're from Milwaukee from under your name. I don't want everyone in the country to think that everyone from this great state is an idiot and knows nothing about baseball like you do.

I'm far from crying that everyone be fired.

Only Roenicke.

I respect what Melvin has done, and I'm very happy with Attanasio as the owner. I complained about the Lohse signing at the time, but seeing how our young pitchers have played so far this year, it was absolutely necessary.

For Melvin to continually make moves to improve the roster with major league talent despite the constant defections (CC Sabathia, Fielder, Grienke) is very impressive. My only gripe would be that we need to develop prospects better, but trading prospects for ML talent is the cost of doing business.

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