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07:01 AM ET 07.16 | Why isn't Lane Johnson signed? If there's nothing for agents and NFL general managers to fight about, they'll invent something. That's all you really need to know about the issue of "offset language," which so far has kept seven of the top 10 first-round draft picks from signing, including the Eagles' [Johnson], selected fourth overall in April. New Eagles coach Chip Kelly is scheduled to greet rookies for training camp at NovaCare in 6 days. There's a decent chance Johnson won't be there then, though sources close to the situation say they don't think a prolonged stalemate is likely. ... [League sources] say the Eagles are among the teams who very much insist on offset language for their rookies.

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July 16, 2013  07:25 AM ET

OK, I'll bite. What's "offset language?" Is it stuff that really sets you off when you find out what you've just signed?

July 16, 2013  07:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

OK, I'll bite. What's "offset language?" Is it stuff that really sets you off when you find out what you've just signed?

This seems like a question for.... 50 year fan!

July 16, 2013  08:08 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

OK, I'll bite. What's "offset language?" Is it stuff that really sets you off when you find out what you've just signed?

From USA Today...

"An offset means the next team to sign a player would foot the bill on any or all of the guaranteed money owed a player who has been released. For example, if a player owed $3 million is released and is signed by another team for $2 million, his former team would only owe him the difference of $1 million. A player with no offset language would earn the original $3 million plus the $2 million from his new employer."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/05/02/offset-rookie-contract s-nfl/2130979/

July 16, 2013  08:12 AM ET

Way to step up Otis. Filling the big guys shoes.

July 16, 2013  08:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Way to step up Otis. Filling the big guys shoes.

This Google thingy is pretty cool.

July 16, 2013  08:14 AM ET

Meanwhile...



Pulled Pork ----------->

July 16, 2013  08:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

From USA Today... "An offset means the next team to sign a player would foot the bill on any or all of the guaranteed money owed a player who has been released. For example, if a player owed $3 million is released and is signed by another team for $2 million, his former team would only owe him the difference of $1 million. A player with no offset language would earn the original $3 million plus the $2 million from his new employer." http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/05/02/offset-rookie-contract s-nfl/2130979/

Ok, I get it. So if the Massachusetts Department of Corrections pays #174594 50 cents an hour to make license plates 40 hours a week, that's $1040, so the Patriots would only owe him $5,998,960.

July 16, 2013  08:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Meanwhile... Pulled Pork ----------->

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July 16, 2013  08:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Ok, I get it. So if the Massachusetts Department of Corrections pays #174594 50 cents an hour to make license plates 40 hours a week, that's $1040, so the Patriots would only owe him $5,998,960.

Unless they get special dispensation from the NFL, this is correct.

July 16, 2013  09:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

This seems like a question for.... 50 year fan!

Otis answered it for everybody. It is a way for the Eagles to not pay remaining guaranteed money to the guy if they release him before his contract is up. cheap on the Eagles part and a little dumb. If they don't want to pay guys like Asomugha $4 million to play for another team this year, then stop giving out ridiculous contracts.

A lot of people have a fit when a player wants to redo their contract. " honor the contract." That is a two way street.

July 16, 2013  09:11 AM ET

In the pre rookie pay scale days offset language would have made sense.so the owners did not do it. Not now, you just cannot get burned that badly anymore by a first round bust. So the owners do it.

How do you stop some of them from keeping on shooting themselves in the foot?

July 16, 2013  09:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Otis answered it for everybody. It is a way for the Eagles to not pay remaining guaranteed money to the guy if they release him before his contract is up. cheap on the Eagles part and a little dumb. If they don't want to pay guys like Asomugha $4 million to play for another team this year, then stop giving out ridiculous contracts.

A lot of people have a fit when a player wants to redo their contract. " honor the contract." That is a two way street.

I liked the note in the article that Luck and Griffin did not have offset language in their contracts.

I guess the Colts and Redskins feel pretty comfortable with those two.

July 16, 2013  09:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

From USA Today... "An offset means the next team to sign a player would foot the bill on any or all of the guaranteed money owed a player who has been released. For example, if a player owed $3 million is released and is signed by another team for $2 million, his former team would only owe him the difference of $1 million. A player with no offset language would earn the original $3 million plus the $2 million from his new employer." http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/05/02/offset-rookie-contract s-nfl/2130979/

Word!

July 16, 2013  09:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Otis answered it for everybody. It is a way for the Eagles to not pay remaining guaranteed money to the guy if they release him before his contract is up. cheap on the Eagles part and a little dumb. If they don't want to pay guys like Asomugha $4 million to play for another team this year, then stop giving out ridiculous contracts.A lot of people have a fit when a player wants to redo their contract. " honor the contract." That is a two way street.

Dumb considering they gave up a #4 pick for the guy.

July 16, 2013  09:27 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Meanwhile... Pulled Pork ----------->

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July 16, 2013  09:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

I liked the note in the article that Luck and Griffin did not have offset language in their contracts. I guess the Colts and Redskins feel pretty comfortable with those two.

Guess they do not trust their front office that much to draft well. dumb. The kid is a fool to sign it. Or, he should counter with some language of his own and see how they deal with it.

July 16, 2013  11:22 AM ET

Don't ya just hate it when you get snagged? I know I sure do.

July 16, 2013  12:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

In the pre rookie pay scale days offset language would have made sense.so the owners did not do it. Not now, you just cannot get burned that badly anymore by a first round bust. So the owners do it.How do you stop some of them from keeping on shooting themselves in the foot?

I would suggest they take their foot outta their mouth before tey shoot it.

July 16, 2013  01:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

And bacon!

YUMMY!

 
July 17, 2013  12:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Way to step up Otis. Filling the big guys shoes.

That made me think of Dooku.

RIP.

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