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07:13 AM ET 07.17 | After a mere three games of summer league action in Las Vegas, center Jeremy Tyler has emerged as a candidate to land one of the Knicks' four remaining roster spots. Gabe Giordano, the agent for Tyler, who's averaging close to a double-double, told ESPNNewYork.com that he envisions a future for his client on the Knicks. "While there have been no formal negotiations with the Knicks to this point, there is every indication that the Knicks would like to have Jeremy in training camp," Giordano said. "They have expressed interest in grooming him to become a valuable big man for their organization in the future." Giordano is hopeful that if Tyler continues to make a "positive impression" in Las Vegas, he could finalize a contract with a team in the next week or two.

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July 17, 2013  08:45 AM ET

He looked pretty decent so far in the summer league and the big upshot he's many years removed from being middle-aged. Get it done N.Y. and Woody needs to give him some burn in the regular season and not toil on the bench the way he did with Copeland last year.

July 17, 2013  08:58 AM ET
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He looked pretty decent so far in the summer league and the big upshot he's many years removed from being middle-aged. Get it done N.Y. and Woody needs to give him some burn in the regular season and not toil on the bench the way he did with Copeland last year.

Now this is a better idea for NY instead of bringing in old folks. Bring in a young and energetic backup center who has upsides.

July 17, 2013  09:11 AM ET
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Now this is a better idea for NY instead of bringing in old folks. Bring in a young and energetic backup center who has upsides.

That's against the Knicks mission statement. Kurt Thomas is available, sign him!

July 17, 2013  09:14 AM ET

You Get One Chance To Make A First Impression, Bro.

July 17, 2013  09:15 AM ET
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Now this is a better idea for NY instead of bringing in old folks. Bring in a young and energetic backup center who has upsides.

Agreed - They also have a couple of other young prospects (back up PG, SF) that look NBA ready and are playing in the summer league plus Hardaway Jr. looked polished before he hurt his wrist. If they pick up those guys the oldest guy will be Prigioni or Kenyon Martin (if he re-signs) with them which is a major deal considering the average age of the Knicks last year.

July 17, 2013  09:23 AM ET
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That's against the Knicks mission statement. Kurt Thomas is available, sign him!

LOL - That's just hurtful man...

July 17, 2013  09:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

He looked pretty decent so far in the summer league and the big upshot he's many years removed from being middle-aged. Get it done N.Y. and Woody needs to give him some burn in the regular season and not toil on the bench the way he did with Copeland last year.

That's the problem with Woody. He's good at stealing from how other coaches run their defense and offense but he's yet to figure out how to copy how to have an effective rotation.

He made three blunders last season which led to players getting overburned in and leading to losing stretch.

1. Rushing Shumpert into the starting line up and playing him heavy minutes instead of easing him in slowly.

2. He did not change the offense after team figured it out.

3. He clearly did not use his horses properly against Indiana. Case in point playing JR heavy minutes when the whole world know he's been drinking heavily. He also kept Copeland on the bench even after Cope showed he can hold his own defensively and score against the Pacers.

All those short comings have led to my conclusion that Knicks won't make it out of the five horse race.

Miami, Indiana, New Jersey, Chicago and Knicks are the power houses of the East. But with the way Wood rotates his players, you can trust we won't make it far.

July 17, 2013  10:04 AM ET
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That's the problem with Woody. He's good at stealing from how other coaches run their defense and offense but he's yet to figure out how to copy how to have an effective rotation. He made three blunders last season which led to players getting overburned in and leading to losing stretch. 1. Rushing Shumpert into the starting line up and playing him heavy minutes instead of easing him in slowly. 2. He did not change the offense after team figured it out. 3. He clearly did not use his horses properly against Indiana. Case in point playing JR heavy minutes when the whole world know he's been drinking heavily. He also kept Copeland on the bench even after Cope showed he can hold his own defensively and score against the Pacers. All those short comings have led to my conclusion that Knicks won't make it out of the five horse race. Miami, Indiana, New Jersey, Chicago and Knicks are the power houses of the East. But with the way Wood rotates his players, you can trust we won't make it far.

I regrettably agree with you but there is an upside to that......


We still will be better than Cleveland....

July 17, 2013  10:05 AM ET
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That's the problem with Woody. He's good at stealing from how other coaches run their defense and offense but he's yet to figure out how to copy how to have an effective rotation.He made three blunders last season which led to players getting overburned in and leading to losing stretch.1. Rushing Shumpert into the starting line up and playing him heavy minutes instead of easing him in slowly.2. He did not change the offense after team figured it out.3. He clearly did not use his horses properly against Indiana. Case in point playing JR heavy minutes when the whole world know he's been drinking heavily. He also kept Copeland on the bench even after Cope showed he can hold his own defensively and score against the Pacers.All those short comings have led to my conclusion that Knicks won't make it out of the five horse race.Miami, Indiana, New Jersey, Chicago and Knicks are the power houses of the East. But with the way Wood rotates his players, you can trust we won't make it far.

NJ is now Brooklyn.

July 17, 2013  10:07 AM ET
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Now this is a better idea for NY instead of bringing in old folks. Bring in a young and energetic backup center who has upsides.

Knicks need to upgrade the center position. Chandler is useless with no offensive game... we always play 4 on five on offense.. that will have to change with the much-improved East. Some part of me hopes Warriors send us Bogut for whinny Chandler. I don't know if he's watched what Roy Hibbert did to him but that was real real bad...

July 17, 2013  10:56 AM ET
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Knicks need to upgrade the center position. Chandler is useless with no offensive game... we always play 4 on five on offense.. that will have to change with the much-improved East. Some part of me hopes Warriors send us Bogut for whinny Chandler. I don't know if he's watched what Roy Hibbert did to him but that was real real bad...

Chandler will never develop an offense. His defense is great but that's only on help out defense. When he gets posted up, he gets eaten alive. If you can trade for Bogut then that could be good. Bogut will be off the books and he is okay on defense. The problem has always been his health but it seems that's Chandler's problem also.

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July 17, 2013  11:40 AM ET

He seems ok for a backup will probably come dirt cheap and be no better than what K Mart can provide. I think the writing is on the wall for Melo to bolt. You can't go deep in the playoffs unless you have elite defense(top 5) and at least two capable players sharing the offensive load. Shumpert D is great but after him it is Chandler the help defender that is not enough to get it done in the playoffs. You will have to depend on Amare and Bargnani yikes.

Who is the second option Felton or JR Smith?

July 17, 2013  11:44 AM ET
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the problem with the knicks is that they are bound to the indiana & caa connection. It has become the boys club over there-from the GM > coach > star > other 'in' players...and the smiling elephant int he room- zekeso if this dude is decent- he's still going to fight an uphill battle to get any minutesBut I do agree- they MUST incorporate guys in there that have some youth and energy....especially during the regular season

Agreed Plus 10o & LMAO @ smiling elephant in the room.

I like Woody as coach but his stubbornness with either overplaying and underplaying select individuals drives me batty sometimes. If someone is laying too many bricks, bench them, if someone is playing lights out, ride them..... That's coaching 101 bro...

July 17, 2013  11:52 AM ET
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He seems ok for a backup will probably come dirt cheap and be no better than what K Mart can provide. I think the writing is on the wall for Melo to bolt. You can't go deep in the playoffs unless you have elite defense(top 5) and at least two capable players sharing the offensive load. Shumpert D is great but after him it is Chandler the help defender that is not enough to get it done in the playoffs. You will have to depend on Amare and Bargnani yikes.Who is the second option Felton or JR Smith?

I don't think it's as dire as some predict - Prigioni is a pest to the opposing guards and creates turnovers plus is a good help defender as well. Same with Melo, JR Smith once they decide to play both ends of the floor (which did occur sporadically last year) - With the inclusion of MWP plus Kenyon Martin (If he re-signs) & some younger, taller players on the summer roster (Tyler, Murray, C.J. Leslie) I think most will buy into woody's defensive schemes.

July 17, 2013  11:58 AM ET
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I don't think it's as dire as some predict - Prigioni is a pest to the opposing guards and creates turnovers plus is a good help defender as well. Same with Melo, JR Smith once they decide to play both ends of the floor (which did occur sporadically last year) - With the inclusion of MWP plus Kenyon Martin (If he re-signs) & some younger, taller players on the summer roster (Tyler, Murray, C.J. Leslie) I think most will buy into woody's defensive schemes.

Talking about wood again?

July 17, 2013  12:01 PM ET
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Talking about morning wood again?

FIXED and yes..! :-)

July 17, 2013  12:15 PM ET
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I don't think it's as dire as some predict - Prigioni is a pest to the opposing guards and creates turnovers plus is a good help defender as well. Same with Melo, JR Smith once they decide to play both ends of the floor (which did occur sporadically last year) - With the inclusion of MWP plus Kenyon Martin (If he re-signs) & some younger, taller players on the summer roster (Tyler, Murray, C.J. Leslie) I think most will buy into woody's defensive schemes.

I don't think it is dire but there is not much improvement you guys can make. Peace is ok as he might start but your PF rotation of Amare and Bargnani will have you guys exposed against, Brooklyn, Indy,Chicago. I mean Woodson didn't want to play Amare against the Pacers last year hardly. Yall might try to go small ball I think defensively yall will have holes at the PF position

July 17, 2013  12:28 PM ET
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I don't think it is dire but there is not much improvement you guys can make. Peace is ok as he might start but your PF rotation of Amare and Bargnani will have you guys exposed against, Brooklyn, Indy,Chicago. I mean Woodson didn't want to play Amare against the Pacers last year hardly. Yall might try to go small ball I think defensively yall will have holes at the PF position

Agreed for the most part but I do think so far to date we got better than last year as we got rid of some dead weight Woody wasn't using to their strengths. (Q-Rich, Camby & Novak)

Last year we got exposed whenever we played teams that were long like Indy and it is why I blame Woodson for the most part in the play-offs versus Indy not adjusting his line up, sliding Shump to the 2, Melo to the 3, and platooning, Martin, Stat, Camby to start the four and help out the five spot to match up to their height.

 
July 17, 2013  01:08 PM ET
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That's the problem with Woody. He's good at stealing from how other coaches run their defense and offense but he's yet to figure out how to copy how to have an effective rotation. He made three blunders last season which led to players getting overburned in and leading to losing stretch. 1. Rushing Shumpert into the starting line up and playing him heavy minutes instead of easing him in slowly. 2. He did not change the offense after team figured it out. 3. He clearly did not use his horses properly against Indiana. Case in point playing JR heavy minutes when the whole world know he's been drinking heavily. He also kept Copeland on the bench even after Cope showed he can hold his own defensively and score against the Pacers. All those short comings have led to my conclusion that Knicks won't make it out of the five horse race. Miami, Indiana, New Jersey, Chicago and Knicks are the power houses of the East. But with the way Wood rotates his players, you can trust we won't make it far.

Woodson runs the same offense and defense in the regular season and in the playoffs. He never switches up that's the same problem he had in ATL

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