Truth & Rumors > NHL

Wings coming up empty on trade takers

Views
5315
Comments
56

07:21 AM ET 07.26 | At this point, it seems time may already be running out on the Red Wings being able to clear enough cap space to bring back Daniel Cleary and Damien Brunner. After signing Stephen Weiss and Daniel Alfredsson, the Red Wings are close to the salary cap's $64.3 million upper limit and will be slightly over it once they ink restricted free agent forwards Gustav Nyquist and Joakim Andersson before training camp. ... It's highly doubtful that Brunner will return. He was seeking a multiyear deal worth around $3.5 million a season. The Red Wings offered two years at $2.5 million per season. ... They've tried for weeks to trade some players but haven't found any takers. I don't see that changing in the offseason. The reason no one has signed Brunner is that he's apparently asking for too much.

MLive.com

Daniel Cleary, Icon Sports Daniel Cleary, Icon Sports
July 26, 2013  07:44 AM ET

Brunner IS asking too much...the 2.5 was a fair deal. He's streaky at best....and that's being generous. I like Cleary but I think his time as a Wing has come to an end. The Wings should concentrate on Nyquist and Andersson...as well as the other prospects they have in G Rapids.

July 26, 2013  07:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Brunner IS asking too much...the 2.5 was a fair deal. He's streaky at best....and that's being generous. I like Cleary but I think his time as a Wing has come to an end. The Wings should concentrate on Nyquist and Andersson...as well as the other prospects they have in G Rapids.

This.

July 26, 2013  08:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Brunner IS asking too much...the 2.5 was a fair deal. He's streaky at best....and that's being generous. I like Cleary but I think his time as a Wing has come to an end. The Wings should concentrate on Nyquist and Andersson...as well as the other prospects they have in G Rapids.

+2

July 26, 2013  08:41 AM ET

I think Brunner may be asking for too much in order to buy time for the Wings to clear some cap space in order to resign him.

July 26, 2013  08:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I think Brunner may be asking for too much in order to buy time for the Wings to clear some cap space in order to resign him.

I doubt Brunner is that sophisticated a thinker. I think he's just plain greedy and, since he's already 27, he wants to cash in and he wants to do it NOW.

July 26, 2013  09:02 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I doubt Brunner is that sophisticated a thinker. I think he's just plain greedy and, since he's already 27, he wants to cash in and he wants to do it NOW.

agree completely

July 26, 2013  09:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Brunner IS asking too much...the 2.5 was a fair deal. He's streaky at best....and that's being generous. I like Cleary but I think his time as a Wing has come to an end. The Wings should concentrate on Nyquist and Andersson...as well as the other prospects they have in G Rapids.

Agreed. I don't think Cleary is done (he's only 34) but, his contributions to the Wings might be. He'll be a great addition to any other team on the hunt like the Pens, Bruins or Hawks. Problem is, none of the top teams have any cap space left to sign him. The Devils might be his best option as they need a lot of help.

July 26, 2013  09:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I doubt Brunner is that sophisticated a thinker. I think he's just plain greedy and, since he's already 27, he wants to cash in and he wants to do it NOW.

Don't forget these guys hire agents to do all the thinking for them.

July 26, 2013  09:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The Wings should concentrate on Nyquist and Andersson...as well as the other prospects they have in G Rapids.

I'm not sure what assets the Wings can part with by way of trade that will clear sufficient cap space to sign them and keep them competitive. That's a dilemma facing a lot of teams this year. Should be easier next year when the cap goes up.

July 26, 2013  09:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Don't forget these guys hire agents to do all the thinking for them.

Most agents want to cash in NOW even more than their clients do.

July 26, 2013  09:14 AM ET

You guys are treating Damien like the Antichrist.

July 26, 2013  09:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

You guys are treating Damien like the Antichrist.

must be an omen for the season to come

July 26, 2013  09:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Brunner IS asking too much...the 2.5 was a fair deal. He's streaky at best....and that's being generous. I like Cleary but I think his time as a Wing has come to an end. The Wings should concentrate on Nyquist and Andersson...as well as the other prospects they have in G Rapids.

Though I agree...seeing the money Clarkson, Clowe and Filpula got, is it wrong for Damien to think he can get paid for inconsistent?

July 26, 2013  09:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Though I agree...seeing the money Clarkson, Clowe and Filpula got, is it wrong for Damien to think he can get paid for inconsistent?

The difference:

Clarkson = 470 career NHL games
Clowe = 505
Filppula = 588
Brunner = 58

Those other guys you cited may have also been overcompensated, but at least the teams that signed them had a pretty good idea of what they were getting for their money.

July 26, 2013  09:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

must be an omen for the season to come

He could join Satan in the KHL.

July 26, 2013  09:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Though I agree...seeing the money Clarkson, Clowe and Filpula got, is it wrong for Damien to think he can get paid for inconsistent?

Yes. He's not in the same league with any of those three. So far, he's just a flash in the pan. He only played 44 NHL games and only scored 12 goals. Not enough experience or consistency to be aiming that high. Can he even handle the rigors of a full NHL season? Too many 'ifs'. 2.5 mill is very generous at this point.

July 26, 2013  09:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

The difference:Clarkson = 470 career NHL gamesClowe = 505Filppula = 588Brunner = 58Those other guys you cited may have also been overcompensated, but at least the teams that signed them had a pretty good idea of what they were getting for their money.

Agreed.

July 26, 2013  09:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

The difference:Clarkson = 470 career NHL gamesClowe = 505Filppula = 588Brunner = 58Those other guys you cited may have also been overcompensated, but at least the teams that signed them had a pretty good idea of what they were getting for their money.

Again agree, but I'm sure it's hard for agents to see what stupid deals GMs have given out, even after the lockout, and not try to shoot for the moon.

The ideal scenario I had for this is that his agent told the Wings the number they want and then showed video of Damien's highlights. In turn Ken put in a tape of all of Damien's turnovers and said 'get real'.

July 26, 2013  10:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#18):

.... his agent told the Wings the number they want and then showed video of Damien's highlights. In turn Ken put in a tape of all of Damien's turnovers and said 'get real'.

Yep. Sounds right.

 
July 26, 2013  10:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

He could join Satan in the KHL.

he'll have a devil of a time

Comment

Remember to keep your posts clean. Profanity will get filtered, and offensive comments will be removed.


Truth & Rumors

MOST POPULAR

  1. 1
    Woodson's next job
    Views
    3452
    Comments
    1100
  2. 2
    Lee on the Yankees' radar (Burnett, too)
    Views
    11105
    Comments
    529
  3. 3
    Rangers pegged as unsportsmanlike divers
    Views
    2292
    Comments
    274
  4. 4
    Heat rising on new sheriff Quintal
    Views
    3362
    Comments
    120
  5. 5
    Geno insists he'll beat out Vick
    Views
    5312
    Comments
    82

SI.com

SI Photos