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07:22 AM ET 08.30 | To some degree, cash is king in Tampa Bay. Cash in the form of Major League Baseball revenue-sharing is sustaining the Tampa Bay Rays, but the patience of other team owners is running low as they wait for the Rays to secure a new ballpark. That's a key point local business leaders took Wednesday from an hourlong discussion with Tampa Bay Rays principal owner Stuart Sternberg and president Matt Silverman at the offices of the Tampa Bay Partnership. ... "People asked questions about Bud Selig and his recent comments," [Partnership chairman Chuck Sykes] said said. "Bud's a very patient guy with these things, but (other team owners) are not happy with the situation ... because if you think about it, the thing right now that's really sustaining the team is revenue-sharing."

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Evan Longoria, Icon Sports Evan Longoria, Icon Sports
August 30, 2013  07:38 AM ET

The fans have never supported them anyway!!

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August 30, 2013  08:46 AM ET
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The fans have never supported them anyway!!

Miami doesn't do much either, even with a new (taxpayer funded) ballpark, Of course they have among the worst owners around. Maybe it's just a Spring training haven?

August 30, 2013  08:50 AM ET

Can a Rays fan explain why a new stadium is supposed to improve fan support?

August 30, 2013  09:19 AM ET
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Move this team across the bay to Tampa, and give it a chance there.

Yup...

August 30, 2013  09:21 AM ET

BS. It defies any logic or reasoning to use public funds to support any business that does not open all of their books to you so you can assess the need and/or necessity of financing them. Period. Until they do that, there is nothing to talk about. Low payroll, revenue sharing and the like, start at repayment at $30 million a year for a 20 year lease. Maybe more. Minimum $600 million of Rays money to start with....

August 30, 2013  09:22 AM ET

it's obviously a very well run baseball operation. they constantly churn out top talent, especially pitching. but they have no fan support unless they make the playoffs and their stadium is a disgrace. move the team to an area that would support it.

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August 30, 2013  09:26 AM ET
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Montreal beckons.

I would have no problem with this.

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August 30, 2013  09:40 AM ET
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BS. It defies any logic or reasoning to use public funds to support any business that does not open all of their books to you so you can assess the need and/or necessity of financing them. Period. Until they do that, there is nothing to talk about. Low payroll, revenue sharing and the like, start at repayment at $30 million a year for a 20 year lease. Maybe more. Minimum $600 million of Rays money to start with....

Agree; public financing of professional and collegiate sports facilities has been documented many times to have NO positive public economic benefits-- it only benefits the teams.

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August 30, 2013  09:54 AM ET
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Can a Rays fan explain why a new stadium is supposed to improve fan support?

Sure. The current stadium is in a bad location. I forget the number, but this stadium has the lowest % of population within 30 minutes of any MLB stadium. A move to Tampa would make it more likely people from Lakeland and Orlando would make the trip. Also, the Trop is a dump. It's like watching a ball game in a storm sewer.

August 30, 2013  09:56 AM ET
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Can a Rays fan explain why a new stadium is supposed to improve fan support?

The stadium is in St. Pete, for starters, not the population center of the region, Tampa. Its about a 25 mile drive for most people, which isn't too bad distance wise, but in practice, blows. I'll give you an example. Let's say its a weeknight game starting at 7pm. If you get out of work at 5pm, you're hitting the interstate from downtown during rush hour when EVERYONE is driving out of Tampa, not in. So you're not going against traffic to see a game, you're going with it. In rush hour. For 25 miles. That means, at best, you're walking up to the stadium after drive time, parking, etc. just before game time. Add the 3:30 hours a typical baseball game lasts, tack on the drive back home, and you're talking about an almost 8am-11:30pm day just to see a game. If you have kids, its nearly impossible to see a night game without taking time off from work to get out early, get home, grab the kids, and then get geared up for your drive to game. Again, getting home well past 11:00 on a school night. Throw in the fact that the stadium is a total POS. Thats why no one goes.

August 30, 2013  09:57 AM ET
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The stadium is in St. Pete, for starters, not the population center of the region, Tampa. Its about a 25 mile drive for most people, which isn't too bad distance wise, but in practice, blows. I'll give you an example. Let's say its a weeknight game starting at 7pm. If you get out of work at 5pm, you're hitting the interstate from downtown during rush hour when EVERYONE is driving out of Tampa, not in. So you're not going against traffic to see a game, you're going with it. In rush hour. For 25 miles. That means, at best, you're walking up to the stadium after drive time, parking, etc. just before game time. Add the 3:30 hours a typical baseball game lasts, tack on the drive back home, and you're talking about an almost 8am-11:30pm day just to see a game. If you have kids, its nearly impossible to see a night game without taking time off from work to get out early, get home, grab the kids, and then get geared up for your drive to game. Again, getting home well past 11:00 on a school night. Throw in the fact that the stadium is a total POS. Thats why no one goes.

Correct.

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August 30, 2013  10:00 AM ET

The other factor is that if it were in Tampa, you'd pull a significantly larger number of people from Orlando who could conceivably come to a weeknight game and get home before midnight. Not even remotely possible with a stadium in St. Pete.

August 30, 2013  10:01 AM ET
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I do that everytime I see a Jays home game. What's your point?

Oh no. The ball park in Toronto is far nicer than the Trop. The Trop was built on the cheap big time.

 
August 30, 2013  10:02 AM ET

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