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07:19 AM ET 09.16 | For Jerry Kill, who suffered another seizure on Saturday, the statistic is round but not pretty. Kill suffers a seizure on game day as the coach of the Gophers at TCF Bank Stadium exactly as often as he wins a Big Ten game. He's 4-for-16 in both categories. His latest epileptic seizure, suffered on Saturday, evokes sympathy for him and his family. He appears to be a good man earnestly trying to elevate a woeful program while searching for ways to manage his disease. Even those who admire him most can't believe that he should keep coaching major college football after his latest episode. Either the stress of the job is further damaging his health, or his health was in such disrepair that he shouldn't have been hired to coach in the Big Ten in the first place.

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Jerry Kill, Icon Sports Jerry Kill, Icon Sports
September 16, 2013  08:42 AM ET

Sadly, he needs to consider another line of work. Four times in five (I think) years means either that the medication isn't controlling it, or that the game-time stress is blowing said medication out of the water.

Health trumps job. As harsh as it sounds, for him and his family, he needs to step down.

September 16, 2013  09:19 AM ET

I feel sorry for the guy, but maybe it's time to slow down and stop putting stress on yourself, Coach.

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September 16, 2013  10:16 AM ET

This was an op-ed POS written by Jim Souhan and appeared in the Minneapolis Star Tribune yesterday. I even read the 250+ comments at the end. Folks in Minny are overwhelmingly supportive of Kill and what he's accomplished for the Golden Gopher program. Many of the commentators scathingly chastised Souhan for his insensitive column.

The school, staff, and players are supportive of Coach Kill, understand the disability, and help make accomodations for it, and they are the ones most immediately affected by the interruptions when the seizures happen. The man appears to be doing a good job and the AD has his back. If so, then maybe we in the CFB sports public can learn to be a little more tolerant and understanding of a disability that for too long has been kept unseen in the backroom of life.

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September 16, 2013  11:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

This was an op-ed POS written by Jim Souhan and appeared in the Minneapolis Star Tribune yesterday. I even read the 250+ comments at the end. Folks in Minny are overwhelmingly supportive of Kill and what he's accomplished for the Golden Gopher program. Many of the commentators scathingly chastised Souhan for his insensitive column.The school, staff, and players are supportive of Coach Kill, understand the disability, and help make accomodations for it, and they are the ones most immediately affected by the interruptions when the seizures happen. The man appears to be doing a good job and the AD has his back. If so, then maybe we in the CFB sports public can learn to be a little more tolerant and understanding of a disability that for too long has been kept unseen in the backroom of life.

Well said, Harley. Everything I've read indicates that this is not a life threatening issue, provided that care is availabe when a siezure occurs. Clearly Minnie is prepared for this.

September 16, 2013  11:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

This was an op-ed POS written by Jim Souhan and appeared in the Minneapolis Star Tribune yesterday. I even read the 250+ comments at the end. Folks in Minny are overwhelmingly supportive of Kill and what he's accomplished for the Golden Gopher program. Many of the commentators scathingly chastised Souhan for his insensitive column. The school, staff, and players are supportive of Coach Kill, understand the disability, and help make accomodations for it, and they are the ones most immediately affected by the interruptions when the seizures happen. The man appears to be doing a good job and the AD has his back. If so, then maybe we in the CFB sports public can learn to be a little more tolerant and understanding of a disability that for too long has been kept unseen in the backroom of life.

I would dare say that most of us have watched a clip that involved a person with a disability doing something we wouldn't expect. We all cheered them on and maybe shed a tear or two, but at the end of the day we knew it was probably a fluke or staged. Coach Kill, no matter how nice a guy or coach he is, has now gone from being the disabled guy we want to cheer for, to the guy who has become a distraction.
You want to try to convince yourself that the team is well prepared for these situations, the bottom line is you can't prepare them for watching their coach being wheeled off in a cart, wondering if this seizure might be something more serious. It is like sitting at the bedside of someone you know is dying, you think you are prepared, but when it happens it causes you pain.

I appreciate that there are 250 plus people writing to support the coach, and to make disparaging remarks about the writer of this story, but at some point you might want to look at his writing objectively .

September 16, 2013  11:31 AM ET

I have to say the writer should be ashame for comparing the 4 and 16 to his seizures. That was gratuitous and uncalled for. It has absolutely nothing to do with his record and everything to do with his health.

If he was 16-4 in those games, people would still be saying, you know what? It may be time to stopputing yourbody through what you are. Someone I think had to pretty muchhave the same conversation with Steve Young. Not exactly thesame, but somewhat similar. Sometimes the person at issue is too close to see the facts.

September 16, 2013  11:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

... I appreciate that there are 250 plus people writing to support the coach, and to make disparaging remarks about the writer of this story, but at some point you might want to look at his writing objectively .

Objectivity in an op-ed piece is not possible. Jim Souhan takes a stance and tries to persuade his audience to agree with it. I happen to disagree with it, and his argument does not convince me.

The "distraction" seems to be with the larger media and the audiences who are either attending a Minny game live or watching it on TV. I'd like to know the big difference between Kill getting carted off the field and one of the players being wheeled off. Both, depending on one's preconceived notion, could be considered a "distraction." We get uncomfortable with the scene because we objectify the players (and the coaches) and think they're X-Box video facsimiles, when the truth of the matter is that we're viewing living human beings who sometimes suffer in front of us. That's reality.

As I've disclosed before, my opinion on this subject is going to be colored anyway. As the relative of one who has lived with the condition of epilepsy, I tend to take a more sympathetic view of the struggles one so afflicted has to contend with to live a normal, productive life. I applaud Jerry Kill and his courage to do the same, and I salute the University of Minnesota in their efforts to accommodate Coach Kill's disability.

September 16, 2013  12:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Well said, Harley. Everything I've read indicates that this is not a life threatening issue, provided that care is availabe when a siezure occurs. Clearly Minnie is prepared for this.

+1, DS, and thanks.

September 16, 2013  01:00 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I'd like to know the big difference between Kill getting carted off the field and one of the players being wheeled off. Both, depending on one's preconceived notion, could be considered a "distraction." We get uncomfortable with the scene because we objectify the players (and the coaches) and think they're X-Box video facsimiles, when the truth of the matter is that we're viewing living human beings who sometimes suffer in front of us.

yWatching anyone get carted off is a distraction, and you do everything you can to avoid that distraction. The coach is not helping his team, although I am sure he wants to, he is hurting the continuity of the game. Anyone is sports will tell you that is important.

September 16, 2013  01:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

How many more messages does Kill's body have to send him before the massive stroke? This passing out and convulsing in public on TV is embarrassing yet sad. It is disgraceful to see your coach dying before the fans eyes. Take a hike Kill and maybe live.

Epileptic seizures are the same as a stroke. Deaths from seizures are rare.

September 16, 2013  01:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Epileptic seizures are the same as a stroke. Deaths from seizures are rare.

Did you mean "are not the same"? That's my understanding, too. Jerry needs to change MDs right away because whatever meds are being prescribed are not managing the situation. As far as "embarrassing": let's grow up out there, eh? If you can't do that, don't look.

September 16, 2013  02:00 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Jerry needs to change MDs right away because whatever meds are being prescribed are not managing the situation. As far as "embarrassing": let's grow up out there, eh? If you can't do that, don't look.

I bet Jerry has never heard that one... I mean with Mayo being so far away I am certain he isn't getting the best medical attention in the country. The "meds" he might need to take to "manage the situation." are probably something a long lines of medical marijuana, making him mellow out, less stress and not really caring about the outcome of a game. Is that what you want in your coach?

September 16, 2013  02:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I bet Jerry has never heard that one... I mean with Mayo being so far away I am certain he isn't getting the best medical attention in the country. The "meds" he might need to take to "manage the situation." are probably something a long lines of medical marijuana, making him mellow out, less stress and not really caring about the outcome of a game. Is that what you want in your coach?

Brother, it depends on who your doctor is, whether they're are good - medicine is an inexact science - and whether you work with them. Sometimes people are stubborn and don't want to consult the best physicians. He did go into the Mayo Clinic briefly, but Kill also said at one point I believe, "I ain't changing." The fact that he has recurrent attacks indicate that the meds aren't working and the MDs need to try something else. That he suffers these during games certainly suggests a connection between the excitement of the games and the attacks.

"But the coach minimized any potential danger that his condition poses to his health, pointing out that doctors don't consider the seizures to be life-threatening. "I think everybody is trying to protect Coach Kill," he said. Doctors are trying different methods and medications to prevent or at least minimize future attacks, and he intends to keep working while they explore solutions. "They haven't got it all figured out yet," he said, "but hopefully they're making progress on it, and we'll be fine." (http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/130735208.html) Clearly, the doctors have got to keep working, but you others for some reason are simply going medieval on his a ss.

September 16, 2013  02:34 PM ET

To all who cannot get behind Jerry and his Killer Gs,* go step on a rake.

*If you're a fan of another B1G team, I'll understand your lack of support if you can effectively convince me of the rivalry or imminent threat to your team's aspirations posed by Minnesota.

September 16, 2013  03:44 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

To all who cannot get behind Jerry and his Killer Gs,* go step on a rake. *If you're a fan of another B1G team, I'll understand your lack of support if you can effectively convince me of the rivalry or imminent threat to your team's aspirations posed by Minnesota.

The coach for the team I follow is from the B1G and has seizures on the sideline almost weekly.. and many of them make national news... talking about how his seizures are a true distraction to his players and fans. Can you guess who I follow? I don't want to say he is an embarrassment, but I will say that when he goes off on the sidelines, the team suffers.

September 16, 2013  05:08 PM ET

Normally ignorance is amusing to me but NOT on the subject of Epilepsy. As the wife of a big, strong, epileptic man this is very close to my heart. This article is disgusting, period! It has absolutely nothing to do with anything. It's a bunch of words jammed together to stir up more talk. It borders on ancient even. Long ago, people with epilepsy were thought to be possessed and the comment about him being a "good guy" leads me to believe that the person that wrote this article has fallen into that belief as well. If you think that 4 seizures is an issue, you've obviously never encountered an epileptic person for an extended period of time. someone who's medication is working perfectly. There's no blanket cure for this nor is there a "treatment" for all epileptics that will prevent seizures from EVER happening again. I can't expect everyone to understand, that would be like world peace. I just wish people would actually take the time to educate themselves before blurting out (or posting for the world to read) ignorance.

September 16, 2013  05:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

Normally ignorance is amusing to me but NOT on the subject of Epilepsy. As the wife of a big, strong, epileptic man this is very close to my heart. This article is disgusting, period! It has absolutely nothing to do with anything. It's a bunch of words jammed together to stir up more talk. It borders on ancient even. Long ago, people with epilepsy were thought to be possessed and the comment about him being a "good guy" leads me to believe that the person that wrote this article has fallen into that belief as well. If you think that 4 seizures is an issue, you've obviously never encountered an epileptic person for an extended period of time. someone who's medication is working perfectly. There's no blanket cure for this nor is there a "treatment" for all epileptics that will prevent seizures from EVER happening again. I can't expect everyone to understand, that would be like world peace. I just wish people would actually take the time to educate themselves before blurting out (or posting for the world to read) ignorance.

Nice first-post, and I couldn't agree more.

Welcome to FN...if you stick around,don't expect many to possess any level of intelligence. :-)

 
September 16, 2013  05:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Did you mean "are not the same"? That's my understanding, too. Jerry needs to change MDs right away because whatever meds are being prescribed are not managing the situation. As far as "embarrassing": let's grow up out there, eh? If you can't do that, don't look.

Yes, I meant not the same. Not enough coffee before posting.

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