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Free Shoes University, hit players until the echo of the whistle, athletes parking in handicapped parking places, tutors yelling out answers on exams, the list goes on and on. FSU has always been a joke of a university scholastically and now has a perennial reputation for the opposite of athletic integrity. I say to throw the book at them and make them pay for their long history of this sort of thing.

tell me how ya really feel......

The self-sanctions........LOL. Only in the world of the NCAA can you break rules and come up with your own punishment...You don't think they are being too hard on themselves do you?

Things must be bad when you're trying to soften the blow with self punishment.

crazy injins!

Free Shoes University, hit players until the echo of the whistle, athletes parking in handicapped parking places, tutors yelling out answers on exams, the list goes on and on. FSU has always been a joke of a university scholastically and now has a perennial reputation for the opposite of athletic integrity. I say to throw the book at them and make them pay for their long history of this sort of thing.

chris in orlando | 02/15/08, 09:16 AM

Wow. You're a moron on sooooo many levels. Ajoke scholastically? Uhhh, not exactly; Try one of the top public research institutes in the South. Free shoes? Really? You had to reach back 15 YEARS for that little Spurrier gem.

I have said this MANY times, but I'll say it again for you, dummy: You could field a college All-Star team with the players that FSU has DISMISSED from our program! Adrian Mcpherson, Mr. Basketball AND Football in Florida! CUT. Laverneaus Coles, a pretty good receiver, yes? CUT. How about Randy Moss, maybe you've heard of him? Also, CUT!

Do me a favor before you open your ignorant cake hole, would you? Name for me ANY major college football program that has NEVER had any scandals, "cheating", or whatever you're calling it. THEN name for me ALL of the institutions that HAVE had problems and TURNED THEMSELVES IN!!! USC? Still in denial. Bama? Oklahoma? Again, no and no! This is NOT Tom Osbourne's Nebraska, so ****!

Eyeswideopen - What's the matter, you can't take it when YOUR TEAM gets put under the MICROSCOPE!! Yeah sure EVER TEAM HAS "STUFF" they're not proud of, but so what. You had to know this was going to come up.

As for me I would make EACH OF THE 61 ATHLETES go talk to middle & highschool kids about not cheating in school. Do it right study, work hard, earn your grade, or your spot onthe team. Maybe tell them to ASK FOR HELP WHEN YOU NEED IT!

But the two years probation is a JOKE! I'd say 5 years sounds good. Along with
7 football scholarship.

Eyes, you have some points but this scandal is unusual. Half of the football team was caught cheating which is big.

What's FSU's graduation rate?

Sexton, what you don't understand is that MY team put THEMSELVES under the 'scope. I have no problem with consequenses, which by the way, will ultimately be dealt by the NCAA. The current penalties are INSTITUTIONAL and in no way indicate that the NCAA will not go even harder on us. I am proud that when things like this DO happen, that at least MY school shows SOME modicum of honesty, and brings it to light BEFORE the NCAA even knows about it! Personally, I think we should just CUT EVERYONE who was involved in the cheating scandal, and THEN let the NCAA punish us.

My previous comments were aimed specifically at the idiot who said we have "a long history of this sort of thing." He attacked not only the integrity of our football program, but of our school in it's entirety. I won't sit here and listen to THAT kind of garbage without opening up with both barrels.

Some real emotions here, you guys are passionate about your schools.
That is cool.
Personally I dropped out of the 10th grade and I am quite sure I have a better life.

I just pulled up the Miami Herald story and it is kind off vague. No big suprises that FSU didn't specify alot of the punishment details of the 30 page report sent to the NCAA for review. Some discussion about some football players missing 3 games next season. Possible a "trimming" of a few scholarshipts. It doesn't sound to me like a very open contrition to the public yet.

For non-althetes, massive cheating on tests results in possible expulsion from college and definitely a loss of any scholarships. FSU's actions presently seem lackluster.

Schools like this should be brought up to lose accreditation. They are an embarrassment to higher-learning institutions. But at the same time, if your target applicant is in the lower spectrum of academic abilities, then this is not all too surprising. I'm glad I didn't have to endure going to a public school like this.

The Miami article aslo states that some of the cheating centered around a "music history" course. Glad to hear that the altheletes were enrolled in a challenging academic curriculum.

What PileOfCrepes said the 2nd time. The football academics must be rigorous.

Schools like this should be brought up to lose accreditation. They are an embarrassment to higher-learning institutions. But at the same time, if your target applicant is in the lower spectrum of academic abilities, then this is not all too surprising. I'm glad I didn't have to endure going to a public school like this.

MARINsur4 | 02/15/08, 12:43 PM

"Schools like this..."? What the hell is that supposed to mean. Riddle me this surfer boy: If some one gets a degree from USC, does that make them smarter than someone who gets their degree from FSU? I think not. It's what the STUDENT decides to do with their time at ANY university that determines their academic prowess. If you didn't have your head crammed so far up your arrogant arse, you'd be able to grasp that concept.

Lose accreditation? Now you're showing what your USC degree is really worth. USC may rank higher in some irrelevant poll, but that does NOT mean that their grads are any more intelligent than any other school's. Our current President went to Harvard AND Yale, and he's as dumb as a brick, just like YOU! Get it?! You could be the poster-boy for "Where you get your degree does not determine your intelligence".

Did you even READ your own post? That's the most arrogant, elitest, wrong-headed piece of trash I've read in a loooooong time. You sir, are a ****.

BTW, MORONsur4, I noticed you failed to mention Reggie Bush. Why would THAT be? Man, I'm sure glad I didn't have to go to some private, elitest, POS, wannabe Ivy League School like USC.

"They should lose their acceditation...", still laughing about that one.

I went to state school, graduated, got a job...unless you are in a specified field, like law or medicine, there really isnt alot of emphasis on where, as much as how well you did and the coursework....

This is still a sports site right?

eyesWIDEshut,

Check this site out and stop drinking the FSU koolaid;
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