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A's bid to move to San Jose could get bloody

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10:49 AM ET 10.12 | You should have seen the lawyers and officials spinning Friday, after a federal court judge's decision to dismiss San Jose's antitrust lawsuit against Major League Baseball -- but still allow a different case to proceed in state court. Naturally, baseball's lawyers claimed a major victory and went "neener-neener-neener" toward San Jose's legal team, scoffing at the city's notion of appealing the federal ruling. Naturally, San Jose's lawyers claimed they were delighted to have the state case proceed and have a chance to show the city has been damaged because MLB has stepped in to prevent A's owner Lew Wolff from cutting a deal that would move the A's to a downtown site near the Diridon Train Station and the Shark Tank. What's going on here? The most important thing to know: This isn't over. It's going to last a while, perhaps a few years. t's probably going to get more bloody -- at least in terms of depositions and paperwork -- before it's over. But the end result might indeed bring the Athletics to San Jose in the long run.

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October 12, 2013  10:55 AM ET

The current ownership of the A's were well aware when they purchased the team that San Jose was not within their territorial rights. They can't just move there because they want to. The Giants have invested a lot into San Jose, including locating a minor league team there. The A's can't just come and wipe that all out because they've finally figured out they're not going to get a viable new stadium in Oakland. They're either going to have to find a new location in their own territory or pay some serious consideration to the Giants to get Santa Clara county.

October 12, 2013  02:42 PM ET

it seems that the A's will remain at the Oakland city,
and it will take years before the A's team can locate a new home,, :-)

October 12, 2013  04:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The current ownership of the A's were well aware when they purchased the team that San Jose was not within their territorial rights. They can't just move there because they want to. The Giants have invested a lot into San Jose, including locating a minor league team there. The A's can't just come and wipe that all out because they've finally figured out they're not going to get a viable new stadium in Oakland. They're either going to have to find a new location in their own territory or pay some serious consideration to the Giants to get Santa Clara county.

Has MLB made some sort of official determination as to which contiguous areas are controlled by the A's and Giants? And if so, how is that area divided up? I'd love to see them stay in Oakland, but agree that a new stadium isn't in their future.

October 12, 2013  09:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The current ownership of the A's were well aware when they purchased the team that San Jose was not within their territorial rights. They can't just move there because they want to. The Giants have invested a lot into San Jose, including locating a minor league team there. The A's can't just come and wipe that all out because they've finally figured out they're not going to get a viable new stadium in Oakland. They're either going to have to find a new location in their own territory or pay some serious consideration to the Giants to get Santa Clara county.

When those territorial rights were allocated many years ago San Jose was a small city surrounded by agricultural territory, truly an insignificant part of Giants territory.
Then Silicon Valley emerged, a whole new metropolitan area arose, and San Jose today is no longer a suburb of San Francisco. Many residents of the area think of a trip to SF as an overnight adventure.
There is enough population to handle two teams, much like the Dodgers and Angels, and it's time to
revise a decades old and outdated territorial arrangement.

October 12, 2013  11:43 PM ET
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When those territorial rights were allocated many years ago San Jose was a small city surrounded by agricultural territory, truly an insignificant part of Giants territory.Then Silicon Valley emerged, a whole new metropolitan area arose, and San Jose today is no longer a suburb of San Francisco. Many residents of the area think of a trip to SF as an overnight adventure.There is enough population to handle two teams, much like the Dodgers and Angels, and it's time to revise a decades old and outdated territorial arrangement.

First, the Giants received territorial rights to Santa Clara county as part of the current ownership's acquisition of the team in 1993. San Jose was already a sizable city at that point. Second, they can revise territorial rights if they wish, but the Giants should get compensated for it.

October 12, 2013  11:44 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Has MLB made some sort of official determination as to which contiguous areas are controlled by the A's and Giants? And if so, how is that area divided up? I'd love to see them stay in Oakland, but agree that a new stadium isn't in their future.

Yes. MLB's official stance is the territorial rights haven't changed.

 
October 13, 2013  07:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

First, the Giants received territorial rights to Santa Clara county as part of the current ownership's acquisition of the team in 1993. San Jose was already a sizable city at that point. Second, they can revise territorial rights if they wish, but the Giants should get compensated for it.

The area has changed a lot in even twenty years.
Reasonable compensation is appropriate but a third party will probably have to be brought in to mediate what is "reasonable".

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