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07:30 AM ET 10.17 | The Flyers, challenged on the offensive side of the ice, could use a goal-scorer. Badly. Paging Thomas Vanek. Paging Thomas Vanek. The Buffalo Sabres winger and the Flyers seem like a perfect match. The Flyers have scored a total of 10 goals -- their lowest seven-game total to begin a season in franchise history -- and they are off to an unsightly 1-6 start. Their general manager's fate may be hanging in the balance. Make a move that triggers a turnaround and Paul Holmgren's job could be secure. Miss the playoffs for the second straight year and ... Assistant GM Ron Hextall is waiting in the wings. Which brings us back to Vanek, a 29-year-old right winger who scored 20 goals in 38 games last season and has 253 goals in 593 career games.

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October 17, 2013  08:02 AM ET

don't know how they could manage his salary.....unless Buffalo is interested in overpaid old guys that can't play. Not a good time for Philly to include high draft picks

October 17, 2013  08:25 AM ET
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don't know how they could manage his salary.....unless Buffalo is interested in overpaid old guys that can't play. Not a good time for Philly to include high draft picks

What cap impact would it have if Pronger officially retired?

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October 17, 2013  08:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

None. He already isn't counting against the cap.

I think there is some stipulation about 35+ year olds where it would be worse for the Flyers

October 17, 2013  08:44 AM ET
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None. He already isn't counting against the cap.

Then the 'Vanek to Philly' thing is nothing more than Holmgren's wet dream to save his job.

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October 17, 2013  08:50 AM ET
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They'll eventually get his destination right if they mention every team in the NHL.

Destination Unknown

October 17, 2013  09:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Destination Unknown

falling down a spiral, (80's song reference of the day)

October 17, 2013  09:24 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

They'll eventually get his destination right if they mention every team in the NHL.

the "broken clock" theory

October 17, 2013  09:45 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

don't know how they could manage his salary.....unless Buffalo is interested in overpaid old guys that can't play. Not a good time for Philly to include high draft picks

I believe Prongers money just came off

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October 17, 2013  10:00 AM ET
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Good point. This could get interesting.

Nah. Philly will just place him on long-term IR at the beginning of the next four seasons with no cap hit and Pronger still gets his cash.

October 17, 2013  10:09 AM ET
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Nah. Philly will just place him on long-term IR at the beginning of the next four seasons with no cap hit and Pronger still gets his cash.

that's what will happen

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October 17, 2013  10:27 AM ET

As a lifelong Flyers fan, this team has no idea what it wants to do as it just builds on the fly each offseason. They trade Carter/Richards 2 years ago because they were cancers in the lockeroom and supposedly boozing it too much after games, yet they end winning a Cup in LA together and I have yet to hear a word that they are a lockeroom problem? They trade our #2 overall pick in 2007, James VanRiemsdyk to Toronto and because they don't know how to manage the salary cap, they had to Amnesty Briere. Gee, I wonder why we don't have anyone left on our roster who can score???? And don't get me started on the Bryzgalove fiasco! We sign him to a ridiculous 9 year deal, trade Bobrovsky who wins the Vezina in Columbus, and then end up trading for his backup Steve Mason, and end up amnesty'ing Bryzgalov! That is the blueprint for a last place team.

October 17, 2013  10:28 AM ET
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I wonder if the NHL would get its own doctors involved? Gary seems to be taking this cap circumvention thing to heart.

The Buttgoblin is Jewish and they take circumvention seriously.

October 17, 2013  10:29 AM ET
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As a lifelong Flyers fan, this team has no idea what it wants to do as it just builds on the fly each offseason. They trade Carter/Richards 2 years ago because they were cancers in the lockeroom and supposedly boozing it too much after games, yet they end winning a Cup in LA together and I have yet to hear a word that they are a lockeroom problem? They trade our #2 overall pick in 2007, James Van Riemsdyk to Toronto and because they don't know how to manage the salary cap, they had to Amnesty Briere. Gee, I wonder why we don't have anyone left on our roster who can score???? And don't get me started on the Bryzgalove fiasco! We sign him to a ridiculous 9 year deal, trade Bobrovsky who wins the Vezina in Columbus, and then end up trading for his backup Steve Mason, and end up amnesty'ing Bryzgalov! That is the blueprint for a last place team.

Or as they call it in Philly, "Business as usual".

October 17, 2013  10:30 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I wonder if the NHL would get its own doctors involved? Gary seems to be taking this cap circumvention thing to heart.

Especially, given Holmgren's comments earlier this week about Pronger never playing again.

If he retires then it does apply against the cap (35+)
If doesn't retire then it's LTIR and no cap hit

Either way Pronger still gets paid, and they've already used their 2 compliance buyouts. So even with a regular buyout the whole cap hit would apply (again 35+).

October 17, 2013  10:32 AM ET
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The Buttgoblin is Jewish and they take circumvention seriously.

LOL

 
October 17, 2013  10:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

As a lifelong Flyers fan, this team has no idea what it wants to do as it just builds on the fly each offseason. They trade Carter/Richards 2 years ago because they were cancers in the lockeroom and supposedly boozing it too much after games, yet they end winning a Cup in LA together and I have yet to hear a word that they are a lockeroom problem? They trade our #2 overall pick in 2007, James VanRiemsdyk to Toronto and because they don't know how to manage the salary cap, they had to Amnesty Briere. Gee, I wonder why we don't have anyone left on our roster who can score???? And don't get me started on the Bryzgalove fiasco! We sign him to a ridiculous 9 year deal, trade Bobrovsky who wins the Vezina in Columbus, and then end up trading for his backup Steve Mason, and end up amnesty'ing Bryzgalov! That is the blueprint for a last place team.

No offense -- Your "team" was never that good. Richards and Carter were very good but Homer never gave them a team around them with the exception of a 20yr. JVR and Briere. I would write-off that 09-10 Cup run as luck. You beat the Rangers in a shootout on the last day of the regular season to make the dance as the #8 seed. You get lucky by facing the Devils, and a not so great Montreal team with an "act of God" comeback series win again the Bruins sandwhiched in there. You get to the Cup against a stacked Hawks team, and Patty Kane exposes your achilles heel with a perfectly placed shot.

In the off-season, Homer goes and over-reacts....Oh man, we just need a goalie and we are right back in the Cup finals. You sign Ilya to a huge contract and in order to get under the cap trade Carter to CBJ for Vorachek and 1st/3rd; the proceed to dump Richards to LA for Simmonds and <vomit> Schenn.

So you do the Homer math--sign a goalie who couldnt save a beach ball in the desert a yr. prior against Detroit, get rid of the top two franchise players (after you sign them to LT contracts) and bring back this way, marginal players.

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