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NASCAR feeling ripple effects of cheating scandal

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10:27 AM ET 10.20 | The cheating scandal at Richmond International Raceway that rocked Nascar more than a month ago continues to be felt in a sport whose credibility has been questioned by fans, the news media and even its drivers. As the 13-car field for the Sprint Cup playoff enters the second half of the Chase with Sunday's race at Talladega Superspeedway, the fallout widens. Last week, Michael Waltrip Racing announced it was eliminating 15 percent of its staff, including the No. 56 race team and Martin Truex Jr., a driver at the center of the scandal, who has paid the highest price even though it appears he did nothing wrong. That development is among the repercussions from Richmond, the race that set the field for the playoff but was manipulated by drivers at Michael Waltrip Racing to try to help Truex qualify for the Chase at the expense of others. "We aren't finished seeing the ripple effects of what went on at Richmond," said Kyle Petty, a longtime driver and broadcaster.

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October 20, 2013  01:28 PM ET

Nascar has to take a big chunk of blame for this MWR mess.

Punishing MWR for their wrongdoing would be fair IF they had equally EVERY TEAM that ever cheated............inclusding the other cheaters at Richmond, but they didn't.....(Not excusing MWR for their blame).

Plus today's social media fanatics (Twitter, Facebook etc) did not help.....sponsors read those.

Removing Truex from the Chase was the biggest contributor to NAPA pulling out.....but the penalty and the cheating itself count too.

The longest lasting fallout will be that people will only remember MWR's wrong doings.

One of the first things, is that people think of MWR as the worst cheater ever, even though the most popular driver JR, did the same thing twice, but no one remembers that. (he got fined the standard $10,000 and lost the standard 25 pts)...

The 2007 Daytona is remembered for Mikey having fuel additives in his car..........folks remember that very clearly,.....but 18, yes, 18 other driver teams were penalized for illegal parts, fuel additives (yes, same cheating) and other infractions from that very same race.

Truex did get the short end of this deal.......but he walk away clean and will be remembered well.....and has a full time ride for 2014.....Truex will be in a top tier team in the near future.

BTW......recent polls (from SI) say that the popularity of both Truex and Bowyer have not dropped at all......and Truex is up a bit.......so maybe parts of this mess are a "blessing in disguise".

October 20, 2013  04:43 PM ET

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October 20, 2013  04:45 PM ET
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October 20, 2013  04:49 PM ET
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October 20, 2013  10:53 PM ET

I never got into the debate of how nascar protects jimmie Johnson ect, but tonight I may have too. How did he finish 13th? He was behind harvick on the last scoring loop, and espn had it right the first time when they showed the finishing order. Harvick 16th Johnson 17th kenseth 20th. Then they move him up to 13th? That 4 extra points is what his lead is now. If he wins by 4 points or less, thats really messed up. Ruining racing. Just let them race, quit throwing debree cautions late, ect. Its getting old, the stuff they do to control the outcomes. Sickens me

October 21, 2013  12:02 AM ET
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I never got into the debate of how nascar protects jimmie Johnson ect, but tonight I may have too. How did he finish 13th? He was behind harvick on the last scoring loop, and espn had it right the first time when they showed the finishing order. Harvick 16th Johnson 17th kenseth 20th. Then they move him up to 13th? That 4 extra points is what his lead is now. If he wins by 4 points or less, thats really messed up. Ruining racing. Just let them race, quit throwing debree cautions late, ect. Its getting old, the stuff they do to control the outcomes. Sickens me

I never got into those debates either............but since the Richmond Race, I see Nascar in a totally different light.......and it's a big negative one.

There have been lots of comments on here, about HMS and JJ favoritism by Nascar.......Richmond proved it.......taking out Truex from the Chase and adding Newman was an even swap......but then adding a 13th spot for Jeff Gordon.........would they have done that, if he wasn't an HMS driver?
I guess we will never know for sure.

I also thought JJ was further back than 13th, but because of the crash, I wasn't sure if his move up to 13th was legit or not.

October 21, 2013  08:34 AM ET

NASCAR is treating this likeits the first big cheating scandel ever to hit the sport, well the jokes on them.
These teams in NASCAR have guys back in the garage that build and design parts for the cars looking for ways to manipulate the rules anyway they can to gain an advantage and not get caught.
This will never change in the sport. NASCAR needs to take a step back and say look , here's the rules no engines bigger then this, no cars heavier then this an you must follow these car set-ups.
Let the teams develope parts on there on to produce stronger engines...would it give some teams more of an advantage, most likely, but we would see better racing and the way racing was back in the day, before NASCAR told the teams this is what your car can be....todays NASCAR starting to look like the old IROC cars and its gonna get more like it as NASCAR continues to develope the cars.

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October 21, 2013  10:02 AM ET
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I never got into the debate of how nascar protects jimmie Johnson ect, but tonight I may have too. How did he finish 13th? He was behind harvick on the last scoring loop, and espn had it right the first time when they showed the finishing order. Harvick 16th Johnson 17th kenseth 20th. Then they move him up to 13th? That 4 extra points is what his lead is now. If he wins by 4 points or less, thats really messed up. Ruining racing. Just let them race, quit throwing debree cautions late, ect. Its getting old, the stuff they do to control the outcomes. Sickens me

Soon To Be 6 Time.....

October 21, 2013  10:40 AM ET

If NASCAR wants to stop worries about "cheating" then they need to stop and look in the mirror. How many times have they called the nebulous "debris on the track" caution when there's 10 laps to go, or if a driver's pulled out to too big a lead?

You'd think they need to stop the race every 100 miles and send a racetrack equivalent of a Zamboni out there to clean things up.

October 21, 2013  10:42 AM ET

Followup - it's gotten when I watch NASCAR races towards the end, I anticipate said debris caution the same way I always expected a heel 'rassler's buddy to fly into the ring with the folding chair (with the ref's back turned, of course). And maybe that analogy is closer to reality than we care to admit.

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October 21, 2013  02:05 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

NASCAR is treating this likeits the first big cheating scandel ever to hit the sport, well the jokes on them.These teams in NASCAR have guys back in the garage that build and design parts for the cars looking for ways to manipulate the rules anyway they can to gain an advantage and not get caught.This will never change in the sport. engines.

Thank you.

October 21, 2013  02:07 PM ET

Thank you.


I'm saying thank you to some of the comments because of the recognition of the depth of cheating by ALL TEAMS.

October 21, 2013  02:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

Thank you.

I'm saying thank you to some of the comments because of the recognition of the depth of cheating by ALL TEAMS.

The "thank you" was for comment #13.

 
October 21, 2013  02:18 PM ET
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NASCAR is treating this likeits the first big cheating scandel ever to hit the sport, well the jokes on them.These teams in NASCAR have guys back in the garage that build and design parts for the cars looking for ways to manipulate the rules anyway they can to gain an advantage and not get caught.This will never change in the sport. NASCAR needs to take a step back and say look , here's the rules no engines bigger then this, no cars heavier then this an you must follow these car set-ups.Let the teams develope parts on there on to produce stronger engines...would it give some teams more of an advantage, most likely, but we would see better racing and the way racing was back in the day, before NASCAR told the teams this is what your car can be....todays NASCAR starting to look like the old IROC cars and its gonna get more like it as NASCAR continues to develope the cars.

Amen Hillbilly. They could also do away with "The Chase". It is a pitifully contrived idea to generate more "fan interest" at a time when college football, the NFL and baseball playoffs are going on. NASCAR should not need a gimmick like this to excite the fan base, better racing will do that.

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