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Taunting rule a 'terrible' idea, says Carroll

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07:21 AM ET 11.01 | Had Golden Tate been playing for Notre Dame and not the Seahawks this past Monday, his 80-yard touchdown catch could have been wiped out under the NCAA's anti-taunting rule. If the NFL were to seriously consider adopting a similar rule, as NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandindo told NFL Network could eventually happen, the league would already have one vocal opponent in Seahawks coach Pete Carroll. Carroll said any rule that would eliminate touchdowns because of taunting or celebration would be a "terrible thing to do" because it would put too much responsibility on game officials to make judgment calls. ... "It puts too much pressure on officials to change a game like that," Carroll said. "I think that would be a terrible thing for an official."

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November 1, 2013  07:32 AM ET

Yeah, that was a real "iffy" thing Tate did. He may have just been working out a cramp in his hand on that play.

November 1, 2013  07:35 AM ET

Eventually Tate is going to have his head separated from his body, but anyway change the penalty to making the scoring team kickoff from their 10 yard line, or make them punt but wiping out the score is stupid and foolish.

November 1, 2013  07:48 AM ET

Because his players like to taunt........but yea it is a bad rule.

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November 1, 2013  08:17 AM ET

I don't think they're talking about regular celebrations, I think they mean fools turning around and pointing or high stepping on the 40 yard line.

November 1, 2013  08:26 AM ET

...unless it's really blatant and stupid, like Tate's was.

November 1, 2013  08:36 AM ET

First celebrations, now taunting. Let's take more fun out of the game.

Before long they will call all of these things "bullying" and then it'll be game, set, match.

November 1, 2013  08:55 AM ET

I'm all for celebrating, jumping into the stands and doing an end zone dance.

I like the idea of taking away a taunting TD.

Why would anyone want to ask Pete Carroll about how he feels about rules. His teams broke rules in College and the Pros.

November 1, 2013  08:59 AM ET
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...unless it's really blatant and stupid, like Tate's was.

Tate's was as bad as we've seen recently, but I'm not in favor of taking points off the board.

I agree that I don't like to see judgement calls have game changing impact to that degree.

Save a decision like this for the league office. They have the ability to review it and make the right call through fines or suspensions.

It's an entertainment league, as much as the league wants to eliminate something like this they also prosper when it happens occasionally.

November 1, 2013  09:00 AM ET

I think the 15 yd penalty is appropriate. Beyond that it becomes too discretionary and allows officials to potentially affect the outcome of a game.

November 1, 2013  09:01 AM ET

I could do without seeing half wits acting like fools in the end zone. It should be handled by teams though, not officials. Maybe a hour of wind sprints for embarrassing the team.

November 1, 2013  09:02 AM ET
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Yeah, that was a real "iffy" thing Tate did. He may have just been working out a cramp in his hand on that play.

Or it could have been gang sign language.

He if my team scores the game winning TD in the last seconds then I will have them run to the Dallas Star [ just and example, nothing against Dallas ] and while some are giving the fans the finger the rest will bend over and point to their rear end. I think we can stand a 15 yard penalty with 2 seconds left on the clock.

November 1, 2013  09:07 AM ET

So, would Walter Payton been flagged under this proposed rule for high stepping?

That sounds absurd, I know. But rules like this are left up to interpretation. Bad idea.

November 1, 2013  09:08 AM ET

It has been taunting by players and fans and not celebration that has caused fans and players to get violent and nearly riot.

Why not just enact the Suh Rule were kicking or stomping a player laying on the ground is just considered an act of celebration [ sarc }

November 1, 2013  09:14 AM ET
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So, would Walter Payton been flagged under this proposed rule for high stepping?That sounds absurd, I know. But rules like this are left up to interpretation. Bad idea.

No, high stepping is nothing more than a way to slow down, just like a player can slow down to a walk and walk into the end zone or run parallel to the end zone in order to kill time, these are not taunting. But holding the ball up in the air turning your body slightly and waving is taunting.

November 1, 2013  09:15 AM ET
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I don't think they're talking about regular celebrations, I think they mean fools turning around and pointing or high stepping on the 40 yard line.

Just like that POC Mesean Jackson...

November 1, 2013  09:20 AM ET
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I don't think they're talking about regular celebrations, I think they mean fools turning around and pointing or high stepping on the 40 yard line.

They do not need a new rule. It is there. Strait from the NFL rule book.

"Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players. "

Suspend the player the game. He loses a big paycheck and his team is actually penalized. I would add in to the rule you lose his roster game day addition for the next game .


Blatant as his celebration "during" the play is worthy of such a penalty.

It would be a fair judgement.

November 1, 2013  09:20 AM ET
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Just like that POC Mesean Jackson...

You would have thought he would have learned to stop his celebration before he gets into the end zone. I remember when he dropped the ball before he entered the end zone as part of his celebration and it was ruled a turnover.

 
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