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Chilling consequences if 'toughen up' is true

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07:19 AM ET 11.06 | Perhaps taking a side isn't the point. [Miami's leadership void] extends to the coaching ranks, particularly if a Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel report that coaches ordered Incognito to "toughen up" Martin is true. ... [If true] the fact a coaching staff would order what is basically a Code Red on a player and use a player who was admittedly mentally unstable in the past to do it shows that staff is not just an accessory to this wrong but is actually complicit in the sin. And as the offender has been suspended and will be fired by not playing for the Dolphins again, so too the accomplice should be fired and not represent the Dolphins again. ... With respect to the Sun-Sentinel's reporting, I hope the information is not true.

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Joe Philbin, Icon Sports Joe Philbin, Icon Sports
November 6, 2013  07:23 AM ET

They're talking about you now, Joe.

November 6, 2013  07:30 AM ET

Time to clean house.

November 6, 2013  07:34 AM ET

Richie Icognito taking the lead on toughening up Martin is like Mac McMurphy toughening up Billy Bibbit in "One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest". Not going to end up well.

November 6, 2013  07:35 AM ET

Why would you need to "toughen up" an NFL draft choice? I would have thought that toughness was a high priority for draft scouts.

November 6, 2013  07:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Why would you need to "toughen up" an NFL draft choice? I would have thought that toughness was a high priority for draft scouts.

and the GM. Ireland is definitely feeling some heat.

November 6, 2013  07:58 AM ET

I feel sorry for Joe Philbin. He came to Miami to be a head coach and ends up having to be a Kindergarten Kop. WTF?

November 6, 2013  08:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

I feel sorry for Joe Philbin. He came to Miami to be a head coach and ends up having to be a Kindergarten Kop. WTF?

Lost in the story, is he actually turned this team around, IMO.

November 6, 2013  08:09 AM ET

And the implosion is about to begin. The last one out the door should shut the lights out.

November 6, 2013  08:09 AM ET

Remember when Miami was 3-0? That seems like a long, long time ago.

November 6, 2013  08:13 AM ET

So long, Joe. If this turns out to be true the door isn't going to hit you on the way out.

November 6, 2013  08:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Lost in the story, is he actually turned this team around, IMO.

Maybe, but also lost is that during all of the reporting and interviews I haven't seen any leadership from Joe. Some things are best resolved by not feeding the beast, others the beast is too big to ignore. This quickly turned into the latter.

November 6, 2013  08:16 AM ET

to toughen up a player happens on every high school, college, and pro football team that cares about winning. how they go about the toughen is the issue. if the staff provided the language used by incognito, then he was just a mindless sheepboy perfect for the job. however, I doubt that is what happened and with license incognito took a step so devoid of common sense, in any age but especially this, that one has to wonder who should be the target of a toughen up campaign. martin should find another profession, with incognito.

November 6, 2013  08:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Lost in the story, is he actually turned this team around, IMO.

Yeah... they have been a lot better with him at the helm.

Damn shame - when that turd ball starts rolling down hill, it picks up a lot of collateral stuff.

November 6, 2013  08:27 AM ET

We'll never know the truth, we can't handle the truth.

November 6, 2013  08:35 AM ET

I feel a Fabulous Thunderbirds reference coming!

November 6, 2013  08:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Maybe, but also lost is that during all of the reporting and interviews I haven't seen any leadership from Joe. Some things are best resolved by not feeding the beast, others the beast is too big to ignore. This quickly turned into the latter.

He spoke out and took accountability for what happens in the locker room, days ago. Genuine speech.

November 6, 2013  08:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Yeah... they have been a lot better with him at the helm. Damn shame - when that turd ball starts rolling down hill, it picks up a lot of collateral stuff.

Meanwhile.... Nick Saban is softening the blow to the Bama faithful, before he heads to Texas.

November 6, 2013  08:38 AM ET

5 out of the last 7 threads on this. The interns are stuck, somebody give them a nudge.

November 6, 2013  08:46 AM ET

Whoa! Hold your judgement on this story. It smells funny. IF IT WERE TRUE, don't ya think Incognito would be telling it? Loud and often and his agent screaming it from the rooftop?

 
November 6, 2013  09:08 AM ET

Ut oh..this sounds something like the scene in "A Few Good Men" here...when the Code Red was ordered on PFC Santiago..

"Did you order the Code Red?"...Coach Philbin.."You're g*d d*mn right I did!"

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