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Santana wants north of $100M

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07:27 AM ET 11.08 | Believe it or not, Tim Lincecum's $35 million deal may turn out to be the bargain of the offseason. Free-agent right-hander Ervin Santana is seeking more than $100 million on a five-year deal, and righty Ricky Nolasco $80 million over the same term, according to major league sources. The market opened Monday, and club officials already are complaining of sticker shock. But player agents, in plotting their strategies, appear to be banking on both the principles of supply and demand and the vast amount of revenue in the industry. The pitchers may not get what they want, just as second baseman Robinson Cano might not get the $300 million-plus he originally sought from the Yankees. But Santana, who will turn 31 on Dec. 12, is perhaps the top starting pitcher on the market.

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November 8, 2013  07:35 AM ET

Lots of teams need pitching. Guaranteed that one of them is desperate enough to spend that kind of money.

November 8, 2013  08:09 AM ET

You heard it here fist, Ladies and Gentemen...

EVERY - I repeat **EVERY** professional athlete's contract should be a "BASE" salary plus incentives.

Now, those incentives can be performance-based or attendance-based. Owners will know exactly what they're getting from each and every member of their team. 20 wins - BONUS. 40 HRs - BONUS. 10 sacks - BONUS. You get the point.

And don't get me started on lawsuits and suspensions. It will only hurt their pockets if they're caught doing something *COUGH*AROD*COUGH* stupid.

Enough raking owners over the coals. Enough forcing me, the fan, to pay $200 if I want to take my kids to a game.

November 8, 2013  08:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

You heard it here fist, Ladies and Gentemen...EVERY - I repeat **EVERY** professional athlete's contract should be a "BASE" salary plus incentives.Now, those incentives can be performance-based or attendance-based. Owners will know exactly what they're getting from each and every member of their team. 20 wins - BONUS. 40 HRs - BONUS. 10 sacks - BONUS. You get the point.And don't get me started on lawsuits and suspensions. It will only hurt their pockets if they're caught doing something *COUGH*AROD*COUGH* stupid.Enough raking owners over the coals. Enough forcing me, the fan, to pay $200 if I want to take my kids to a game.

Everybody has lots of great ideas that the MLBPA would laugh at and throw in the circular file.
The NFL broke their players' union, the union in MLB won. The owners would have to be strong and unified enough to shut down MLB until the players gave in to get any kind of control over salaries. At least the luxury tax helps a little bit, not as much as a hard cap of course...I think the Yanks are take to take a '14 breather on huge new deals and that should help depress the market a bit. If the Yanks spend away anyway, I'd say the lux tax is not helping much.

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November 8, 2013  08:24 AM ET

He won't get that much money.

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November 8, 2013  08:28 AM ET

yeah right, who does this guy think he is barry zito?

November 8, 2013  08:38 AM ET

I can almost guarantee that whatever team that signs Santana will regret it down the road...he'll still get a good deal, anyway.

November 8, 2013  08:56 AM ET

Er will be 31 when the season starts next year and is just above being a career 500 pitcher, so I would like to know what he thinks justifies him in asking for such a ridiculous contract demand.

November 8, 2013  09:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

You heard it here fist, Ladies and Gentemen...EVERY - I repeat **EVERY** professional athlete's contract should be a "BASE" salary plus incentives.Now, those incentives can be performance-based or attendance-based. Owners will know exactly what they're getting from each and every member of their team. 20 wins - BONUS. 40 HRs - BONUS. 10 sacks - BONUS. You get the point.And don't get me started on lawsuits and suspensions. It will only hurt their pockets if they're caught doing something *COUGH*AROD*COUGH* stupid.Enough raking owners over the coals. Enough forcing me, the fan, to pay $200 if I want to take my kids to a game.

Heard what first?
That the MLB union contract is annoying to most fans, that it encourages complacency among older players in their last playing years, that it upsets owners and enriches Agents?
Don't think you are the first to express these thoughts. What you don't acknowledge is that the Collective Bargaining Agreement is a contract upheld by law, and no amount of complaining will change that.

November 8, 2013  09:10 AM ET

Free Agent Season, when baseball fans watch to see which Owners and GMs buckle first and pay crazy money for too many years to average players.

November 8, 2013  09:21 AM ET
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Problem is why would a bit then ever bunt or play for the team, rather than their own individual stats?Guys on 1st and 2nd no outs?I'd be swinging for the fences, not considering 'sacrificing'

Player-based incentives. You wouldn't pay a bit player incentives based on a 40-plus homer system. You have a speed guy, his incentives are speed-related. Stolen bases, 1st to 3rd on a gapper, etc... It's not black and white.

November 8, 2013  09:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

You heard it here fist, Ladies and Gentemen...EVERY - I repeat **EVERY** professional athlete's contract should be a "BASE" salary plus incentives.Now, those incentives can be performance-based or attendance-based. Owners will know exactly what they're getting from each and every member of their team. 20 wins - BONUS. 40 HRs - BONUS. 10 sacks - BONUS. You get the point.And don't get me started on lawsuits and suspensions. It will only hurt their pockets if they're caught doing something *COUGH*AROD*COUGH* stupid.Enough raking owners over the coals. Enough forcing me, the fan, to pay $200 if I want to take my kids to a game.

I think perhaps you need to book a trip to the real world.

November 8, 2013  09:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Player-based incentives. You wouldn't pay a bit player incentives based on a 40-plus homer system. You have a speed guy, his incentives are speed-related. Stolen bases, 1st to 3rd on a gapper, etc... It's not black and white.

Or realistic. Or ever going to happen.

November 8, 2013  09:35 AM ET

MTV doesn't have the Real World anymore, Mr. Juan.

November 8, 2013  09:36 AM ET

LAAAAAAAAAAKERS!!!!

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November 8, 2013  10:00 AM ET
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By virtue of the fact that teams hand out these large contracts, it's apparent that the market bears them. Players are not "raking owners over the coals." These teams make money hand over fist. Also, no one is "forcing" you to do something you "want." You are not entitled to be able to take your kids to a game for less than $200. It is a luxury that you can choose to do or not. I "want" a Porsche 911 Turbo S, but you don't see me whining about them "forcing" me to pay $180k for it. Get a grip.

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