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07:19 AM ET 11.11 | Meet Tulo in St. Louis? Officials from the St. Louis Cardinals and Colorado Rockies are expected to meet at the GM/owners' meetings in Orlando this week and discuss parameters of a potential trade involving Troy Tulowitzki, which already has been broached in informal talks between the parties, sources with knowledge of the situation told Yahoo Sports. Not only have the Cardinals shown significant interest in Tulowitzki, the Rockies' 29-year-old shortstop, they've inquired about the availability of a shortstop from the Texas Rangers, who have Elvis Andrus and Jurickson Profar, sources said. St. Louis' preference is to fill its gaping hole at shortstop with Tulowitzki, considered the best at the position in the major leagues.

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November 11, 2013  08:39 AM ET

Second point - The Cards will not pay a ss 20 million a year either.

November 11, 2013  08:51 AM ET

I think the Cardinals feel they can make it to the playoffs with 105 to 120 games from Tulo. They'll be happy as long as he's healthy in October. They can and will pay him $20 million a year as long as the Rockies don't ask for too much talent in return. Corlos Beltran and Westbrook coming off the books covers that $20 million per year. They have a total of $35 million coming off the books. Outside of Wainwright, their pitching is cheap for years to come.

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November 11, 2013  09:14 AM ET
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I think the Cardinals feel they can make it to the playoffs with 105 to 120 games from Tulo. They'll be happy as long as he's healthy in October. They can and will pay him $20 million a year as long as the Rockies don't ask for too much talent in return. Corlos Beltran and Westbrook coming off the books covers that $20 million per year. They have a total of $35 million coming off the books. Outside of Wainwright, their pitching is cheap for years to come.

I think it would be more Cards-like to get one of the young guys from Texas in exchange for some of their power arms.
But, the Cards did take a flyer on an injury-prone veteran named McGwire a while back...though he was taking some wacky stuff to help stay "healthy".

November 11, 2013  09:15 AM ET
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Yeah, but how do you guarantee that?Mozeliak: Alright, Tulo -- do you mind if I call you Tulo? No? Great -- we've acquired you from the Rockies and we're really excited to have a shortstop of your caliber here with the Cardinals. There's just this one thing, though. You see, we've noticed you kind of get hurt a lot. Now, we're only expecting to get 105-120 games per season out of you, which we're totally fine with, but it's important that you not be or get hurt in October. So, are we cool?Tulowitzki: I think you just sprained my ear.

Reminds me of the Japanese manager who told his new American import gaijin to strike out instead if he felt like he was going to ground into a DP.

November 11, 2013  09:15 AM ET

Would he have put them over the top in the World Series?

November 11, 2013  09:20 AM ET

There's risk in every transaction. Odds are good he won't be hurt in October. One thing seems to be more certain. They can't win a championship with Kozma at short.

I say no now that I see the Rockies want Adams, Miller and one or two more players. That's too much for an often injured player with an expensive long term contract. I don't see this happening if the Rockies insist on a mother load with that long term contract in place.

This says Profar is the team's preferance: "GM John Mozeliak told Jim Bowden of SiriusXM (via Twitter) that he'd like to trade a young starting pitcher for a "young controllable shortstop." Miller for Profar would work for me. Both are hot prospects and the lower rated one is now a proven MLB starter.

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November 11, 2013  09:41 AM ET

don't like the idea AT ALL

November 11, 2013  09:44 AM ET
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There's risk in every transaction. Odds are good he won't be hurt in October. One thing seems to be more certain. They can't win a championship with Kozma at short.I say no now that I see the Rockies want Adams, Miller and one or two more players. That's too much for an often injured player with an expensive long term contract. I don't see this happening if the Rockies insist on a mother load with that long term contract in place.This says Profar is the team's preferance: "GM John Mozeliak told Jim Bowden of SiriusXM (via Twitter) that he'd like to trade a young starting pitcher for a "young controllable shortstop." Miller for Profar would work for me. Both are hot prospects and the lower rated one is now a proven MLB starter.

Yeah, I agree that the Rocks are in no position to be demanding a bunch of talent...they want somebody to take the financial burden off their backs and give them some token bodies in return.

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November 11, 2013  10:27 AM ET

The rockies will expect a lot in exchange for a major part of their offense. Cards can't expect the rockies to just give Tulo for a relief pitcher. It will cost the cards several good players in exchange. How bad do they want Tulo?

November 11, 2013  10:39 AM ET
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Granted, it's a small sample size but Profar's looked like kaka in the majors thus far.

his hitting ... yes
his fielding ... no, although, he has made some rookie mistakes, tis to be expected ...

November 11, 2013  10:39 AM ET
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Granted, it's a small sample size but Profar's looked like kaka in the majors thus far.

It is a small sample size. He had good numbers through the minors. Miller had an excellent rookie year; but, right now quality shortstops are even harder to find than quality starting pitching. A young pitcher or Taveras for Profar has been my choice for filling the shortstop hole al along. I'd rather it be a young pitcher because I like Craig at first base instead of right.

November 11, 2013  10:41 AM ET

I don't think Profar will hit like Tulo or Jeter; but, I'll take a league average hitter with a good glove at short.

November 11, 2013  10:41 AM ET
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This says Profar is the team's preferance: "GM John Mozeliak told Jim Bowden of SiriusXM (via Twitter) that he'd like to trade a young starting pitcher for a "young controllable shortstop." Miller for Profar would work for me. Both are hot prospects and the lower rated one is now a proven MLB starter.

Rangers don't necessarily need a "young starting pitcher" ... they need a seasoned veteran starting pitcher ... so I don't see this happening

November 11, 2013  10:42 AM ET
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his hitting ... yeshis fielding ... no, although, he has made some rookie mistakes, tis to be expected ...

Plus, he's still only 20.

November 11, 2013  10:42 AM ET
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I don't think Profar will hit like Tulo or Jeter; but, I'll take a league average hitter with a good glove at short.

Profar has power, but it may take him a while to get into the "groove" of hitting MLB pitching ...

 
November 11, 2013  10:46 AM ET
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Plus, he's still only 20.

yes indeed ... I'd really rather see the Rangers trade off Kinsler. I know a great many Ranger fans won't agree ... but I see it as the lesser of two evils. Profar has a better upside going into the future ...

I aslo know that everybody is in the win now mode, so mho doesn't really matter ...

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