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07:37 AM ET 11.18 | For a team that fired its head coach earlier this season, things sure have changed for USC, which toppled Stanford over the weekend. Trojan offensive assistants Clay Helton, Mike Summers and Tommie Robinson, three coaches with a combined 76 years of professional experience, celebrated in a group hug, jumping up and down. "This is unbelievable," said the 50-year-old Robinson. ... Robinson, the USC running backs coach, has grown close to Orgeron, and took the moment to campaign for the former defensive line coach to become the Trojans' permanent head coach. "Ain't no doubt in my mind that Ed Orgeron should be named USC's head coach, and I don't care who hears me," said Robinson. "No man on this planet can make these kids play harder than he can."

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November 18, 2013  07:54 AM ET

Pete Carroll fans might take exception to Robinson's declaration.

November 18, 2013  08:33 AM ET

Maybe if John Robinson had made this statement I would have felt better about it.

November 18, 2013  08:43 AM ET

Maybe then they should try looking on a different planet for a new coach...?

November 18, 2013  08:48 AM ET

I dunno about this, Trog fans.

As HC, Coach O had one of the worst offenses, and W-L records that Ole Miss has had in quite some time. I suppose it's possible he can be a longterm successful HC for you guys, but it would be quite the turnaround. If you look over his coaching career, his recruiting prowess has been his best feature, not necessarily his coaching. Maybe he can do it, but I'd be careful giving him any kind of longterm contract, and I don't think Pat Haden will make that mistake.

November 18, 2013  09:05 AM ET

There have been quite a few coaches that failed in their first HC job and succeeded in their next HC job. Orgeron admitted he did not handle Ole Miss very well. He said he tried to act like he thought a HC should act like and it all unraveled. Now he says he will just be himself and you can see the results. Give him the job. As for just two examples of head coaches succeeding on their 2nd try, Pete Carroll (Jets,Seahawks) and Bellicheck (Browns,Patriots) There are plenty of other examples in both college and pro.

November 18, 2013  09:06 AM ET

He seems to be a great motivator for sure. However I'm not sure he's a great Xs and Os guy and needs a great group of assistants.

November 18, 2013  09:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I dunno about this, Trog fans. As HC, Coach O had one of the worst offenses, and W-L records that Ole Miss has had in quite some time. I suppose it's possible he can be a longterm successful HC for you guys, but it would be quite the turnaround. If you look over his coaching career, his recruiting prowess has been his best feature, not necessarily his coaching. Maybe he can do it, but I'd be careful giving him any kind of longterm contract, and I don't think Pat Haden will make that mistake.

Bit of a different talent pool: all four and five star recruits at SC. It's usually top 10 nationally. O. had a lot to work. Still, in Sept. USC looked like the Titanic with its bow at 90 degrees and to beat Stanford is impressive. Still Del Rio is a Trojan and looks like Pat's target. What do you say to O. if you're Haden letting him go? "Nice job, see you later"? O. will have offers, believe me.

November 18, 2013  09:17 AM ET

When did Newman get the condom coaching job?

November 18, 2013  09:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

There have been quite a few coaches that failed in their first HC job and succeeded in their next HC job. Orgeron admitted he did not handle Ole Miss very well. He said he tried to act like he thought a HC should act like and it all unraveled. Now he says he will just be himself and you can see the results. Give him the job. As for just two examples of head coaches succeeding on their 2nd try, Pete Carroll (Jets,Seahawks) and Bellicheck (Browns,Patriots) There are plenty of other examples in both college and pro.

You could be right, certainly there are examples of it happening -- but does Pat Haden really want to take a chance on this, right on the heels of the whole LK fiasco? If I am him, I want something a bit more time-proven, but that's just me.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

November 18, 2013  09:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Pete Carroll fans might take exception to Robinson's declaration.

Why is that?? :-)

November 18, 2013  09:20 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I dunno about this, Trog fans. As HC, Coach O had one of the worst offenses, and W-L records that Ole Miss has had in quite some time. I suppose it's possible he can be a longterm successful HC for you guys, but it would be quite the turnaround. If you look over his coaching career, his recruiting prowess has been his best feature, not necessarily his coaching. Maybe he can do it, but I'd be careful giving him any kind of longterm contract, and I don't think Pat Haden will make that mistake.

It was Ole Mess man...

And I hope SC does hire him

November 18, 2013  09:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Bit of a different talent pool: all four and five star recruits at SC. It's usually top 10 nationally. O. had a lot to work. Still, in Sept. USC looked like the Titanic with its bow at 90 degrees and to beat Stanford is impressive. Still Del Rio is a Trojan and looks like Pat's target. What do you say to O. if you're Haden letting him go? "Nice job, see you later"? O. will have offers, believe me.

I hear you on the talent pool part.

As for Haden's message to Coach O, IMO Pat needs to keep his focus on what's best for SC. Sometimes you gotta say "Nice job, thanks" and let somebody go IF YOU DON'T THINK THEY CAN HANDLE THE NEXT JOB UP THE LADDER. Haden may or may not believe that. Whatever the case, Haden's job is to put all the best pieces in place he can to make the program successful, and sometimes that means making tough decisions on personnel.

November 18, 2013  09:24 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

It was Ole Mess man...And I hope SC does hire him

Haden may hire him, who knows at this point. And he could turn out to be awesome as their HC long term.


Or not.

November 18, 2013  09:28 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I dunno about this, Trog fans. As HC, Coach O had one of the worst offenses, and W-L records that Ole Miss has had in quite some time. I suppose it's possible he can be a longterm successful HC for you guys, but it would be quite the turnaround. If you look over his coaching career, his recruiting prowess has been his best feature, not necessarily his coaching. Maybe he can do it, but I'd be careful giving him any kind of longterm contract, and I don't think Pat Haden will make that mistake.

GR, I do agree with you in that Haden won't make Coach O the HC long-term. You also have to realize that you are talking about Ole Miss. When Coach O was there, he tried to install a USC style offense and IMO that was a mistake. Like GW stated in comment #7, "Bit of a different talent pool" at USC than Ole Miss.

November 18, 2013  09:30 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

As for Haden's message to Coach O, IMO Pat needs to keep his focus on what's best for SC. Sometimes you gotta say "Nice job, thanks" and let somebody go IF YOU DON'T THINK THEY CAN HANDLE THE NEXT JOB UP THE LADDER. Haden may or may not believe that. Whatever the case, Haden's job is to put all the best pieces in place he can to make the program successful, and sometimes that means making tough decisions on personnel.

Totally agree.

November 18, 2013  09:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

You could be right, certainly there are examples of it happening -- but does Pat Haden really want to take a chance on this, right on the heels of the whole LK fiasco? If I am him, I want something a bit more time-proven, but that's just me.It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Yeah, it will be a very interesting decision for Haden, especially if USC wins out.

November 18, 2013  09:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

He seems to be a great motivator for sure. However I'm not sure he's a great Xs and Os guy and needs a great group of assistants.

Damn good comment!!!

November 18, 2013  09:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Totally agree.

So you think he will show O. the door at the end of the season, even if Trojans beat Bruins?

November 18, 2013  09:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

He seems to be a great motivator for sure. However I'm not sure he's a great Xs and Os guy and needs a great group of assistants.

He's got that though, no?

 
November 18, 2013  09:37 AM ET

I hope they do hire him so that Sumlin stays at A&M....

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