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07:27 AM ET 12.09 | Seemingly suddenly, the free agent market has grown thin while the Yankees outfield has grown overcrowded. Could be time to enter the trade market, with Brett Gardner emerging as the Yankees most valuable trade chip. "I'm not looking to move him," general manager Brian Cashman said. "But when asked, have people called, absolutely they've called." According to one rival executive, the Yankees have also mentioned Ichiro Suzuki's name in trade talks. There's no indication that any sort of Ichiro trade is close, and his trade value is minimal at best. One baseball source questioned how well Ichiro would adjust to a fourth outfielder role, which is the way most teams are likely to value him. Far more valuable is Gardner.

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December 9, 2013  08:11 AM ET

Another FN caption that distorts the reality of the story.

December 9, 2013  08:16 AM ET

....what a mess the yankers have become...not fun anymore to bash them....

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December 9, 2013  08:51 AM ET

He'd probably just retire unless he went to a real contender. Who could they get that could contribute more than Ichiro right now?

December 9, 2013  09:07 AM ET

Itchy should go back to Japan for a retirement tour. I can't see him starting for anybody here, but he would still have value off the bench...as rich as he is, why doesn't he go home and spend a year as the conquering hero who returned?

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December 9, 2013  09:28 AM ET

I can't imagine much of a market for an over the hill singles hitter.

December 9, 2013  09:38 AM ET
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I've never heard it used, but baseballreference.com lists "Fat Ichiro" as one of Pablo Sandoval's nicknames. That makes me laugh.

Saw that in the same place and also had never heard it before...is it due to Sandoval's penchant for beating out IF hits? He reminds me more of "Taller Tony Gwynn"...
I predict Sandoval may be the first major league player to report for spring training at over 400 lbs.

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December 9, 2013  09:59 AM ET
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Hell, that description of him is probably generous at this point. Over the last three years, this is his combined slash line: .273/.305/.356/.661With the exception of his BA, those are all well below average.

Wow. Those are not what you would call impressive numbers.

December 9, 2013  09:59 AM ET
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Hell, that description of him is probably generous at this point. Over the last three years, this is his combined slash line: .273/.305/.356/.661With the exception of his BA, those are all well below average.

I've seen people here and there getting on Brett Gardner for not being much of a hitter, but his career OBP is .352 and he was at .344 last season.
Shockingly enough, Ichiro's career OBP is only .361, but he was .400ish in his best seasons.

December 9, 2013  10:02 AM ET
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I've seen people here and there getting on Brett Gardner for not being much of a hitter, but his career OBP is .352 and he was at .344 last season.Shockingly enough, Ichiro's career OBP is only .361, but he was .400ish in his best seasons.

Garner is pretty much a slap hitter.

December 9, 2013  10:11 AM ET
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Hell, that description of him is probably generous at this point. Over the last three years, this is his combined slash line: .273/.305/.356/.661With the exception of his BA, those are all well below average.

Ichiro can still play defense pretty well but he hasn't been particularly productive the last couple of years on offense.

December 9, 2013  10:17 AM ET
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Garner is pretty much a slap hitter.

True, just saying he's a lot more valuable now than Ichiro even though their BAs are similar. Ichiro was kind of like a fastpitch slap hitter ported over to baseball, and Willie Wilson was also excellent at that as long as Whitey Herzog was his manager and forcing him to play smart. Vince Coleman could have had a much better career if he had taken that approach.

December 9, 2013  10:28 AM ET
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Garner is pretty much a slap hitter.

So was Ichiro in his prime. Gardner is a decent lead-off guy, he just seems tentative at the plate he takes too many pitches and gets into bad counts, and overly cautious on the bases.

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December 9, 2013  11:06 AM ET
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Ichiro can still play defense pretty well but he hasn't been particularly productive the last couple of years on offense.

He'd be a decent 4th outfielder, but I don't think his ego will allow him to sit on the bench much.

December 9, 2013  12:00 PM ET
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He'd be a decent 4th outfielder, but I don't think his ego will allow him to sit on the bench much.

I'm pretty sure that would leave retirement as his only option at this point.

December 9, 2013  12:22 PM ET
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He'd be a decent 4th outfielder, but I don't think his ego will allow him to sit on the bench much.

That's accurate I would say. Most successful players at the highest level do have a bit of an ego. Some excersize it, some control it but when it comes to the end of the line it's hard for some of these guys to admit it to themselves that the end of the line is approaching.

 
December 9, 2013  12:30 PM ET

Why would a team want a 40 year old player, let alone give up any prospect for him. The Yankees will be stuck with him until he retires.

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