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07:32 AM ET 12.09 | Both Rutgers and Notre Dame, this year's Pinstripe Bowl teams, come with storylines o' plenty. Like Irish nose guard Louis Nix taking himself out of being able to travel with his team to New York by signing with an agent Friday in a sloppy parting of the ways with Notre Dame, unbefitting the standout contributor and cult hero he had evolved into. Perhaps the most intriguing is that junior defensive end Stephon Tuitt hasn't made a move toward an early exit yet, even though he's projected to go in the top half of the first round of next May's NFL Draft if he does forego his senior season. "All we've done is put in his paperwork to get an evaluation from the NFL," Kelly said Sunday after the team's first pre-bowl practice. "We haven't really delved into the depth of that yet."

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December 9, 2013  07:36 AM ET

And that decision is....LL Bean union suits. Enjoy the Big (frozen) Apple, Domers.

December 9, 2013  08:13 AM ET

Do any of these bowls matter. Sans the biggie bowl, most schools use these bowls as funsy wunsy or the beginning of 2014...or a combination of both.

December 9, 2013  08:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Do any of these bowls matter. Sans the biggie bowl, most schools use these bowls as funsy wunsy or the beginning of 2014...or a combination of both.

They don't "matter" matter but it is a way to set your table for the next season. Biggest deal is the practice. Your team gets an extra 3-4 weeks of being together, working with coaches and going through drills. That is huge.

Now in the days of twitter etc, there is the 24/7 world of recruiting and image building for your program and bragging rights for your conf. Yes they do matter IMHO.

December 9, 2013  08:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

They don't "matter" matter but it is a way to set your table for the next season. Biggest deal is the practice. Your team gets an extra 3-4 weeks of being together, working with coaches and going through drills. That is huge. Now in the days of twitter etc, there is the 24/7 world of recruiting and image building for your program and bragging rights for your conf. Yes they do matter IMHO.

That's why I added the "beginning of 2014" part of my comment. For most of 'em, it don't mean squat as far as 2013 goes. So if those players hire an agent and miss the game, what does it matter for the team as far as 2013 goes?

December 9, 2013  08:41 AM ET

I think Rutgers just fired their DC, so chances are good that unit is pretty much in disarray, so a hit to ND's D just evens things up a bit.

December 9, 2013  08:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

That's why I added the "beginning of 2014" part of my comment. For most of 'em, it don't mean squat as far as 2013 goes. So if those players hire an agent and miss the game, what does it matter for the team as far as 2013 goes?

Bonuses (players and coaches). Also, it can get someone hired/fired although that is more of a '14 season issue. Also, practice, man. We're talking about practice.

December 9, 2013  09:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

That's why I added the "beginning of 2014" part of my comment. For most of 'em, it don't mean squat as far as 2013 goes. So if those players hire an agent and miss the game, what does it matter for the team as far as 2013 goes?

Your last part is true for sure. That can be a problem. I do a confidence pool every year on the bowls and it is so hard to figure out which team is going to "show up". I call it the letdown or "I don't give a chiit" Bowl.

December 9, 2013  09:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Bonuses (players and coaches).

SEC fan, huh?

;-)

December 9, 2013  09:20 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Do any of these bowls matter. Sans the biggie bowl, most schools use these bowls as funsy wunsy or the beginning of 2014...or a combination of both.

Ask USC. They used last year's Sun Bowl as a way to trash El Paso (a trend that continued with their basketball team this year) and show attitude. Karma bit them on that count.

December 9, 2013  09:21 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Your last part is true for sure. That can be a problem. I do a confidence pool every year on the bowls and it is so hard to figure out which team is going to "show up". I call it the letdown or "I don't give a chiit" Bowl.

It is real hard to figure out. Some are excited about their bowls and others aren't too thrilled at all...but they say all the PC things leading up to it.

I'm pretty sure Georgia and Nebraska ain't too thrilled with their game this year.

December 9, 2013  09:40 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Do any of these bowls matter. Sans the biggie bowl, most schools use these bowls as funsy wunsy or the beginning of 2014...or a combination of both.

You have to look at it through the eyes of a 19 year old college kid. True, playing for the George M. Steinbrenner Trophy in the Pinstripe Bowl is not the stuff dreams are made of, but it brings closure and a change of routine and scenery to a season. That's all. Like that Senior Trip kids make before they graduate.

December 9, 2013  09:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

They don't "matter" matter but it is a way to set your table for the next season. Biggest deal is the practice. Your team gets an extra 3-4 weeks of being together, working with coaches and going through drills. That is huge. Now in the days of twitter etc, there is the 24/7 world of recruiting and image building for your program and bragging rights for your conf. Yes they do matter IMHO.

Exactly; great comment!

December 9, 2013  09:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

It is real hard to figure out. Some are excited about their bowls and others aren't too thrilled at all...but they say all the PC things leading up to it.I'm pretty sure Georgia and Nebraska ain't too thrilled with their game this year.

Isn't the team's attitude about a bowl game a good indicator of the coaching staff's leadership and team discipline?

December 9, 2013  09:50 AM ET

The number of bowls continues to grow because all CFB head coaches know the value of the extra practices for the development of next year's team. In addition to providing teams with 3 weeks of additonal practice, it gives coaches with a less than desirable record to end the year on a winning note. Compare that to a play-off only system where half the teams that make the play-off only get one week of practice (and it's game focused, not development for next year) and that in the end, there is only one winner, and you can understand why the Bowl System will always be with us.

December 9, 2013  09:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Do any of these bowls matter. Sans the biggie bowl, most schools use these bowls as funsy wunsy or the beginning of 2014...or a combination of both.

Yes these Bowl games matter. I can't wait until New Years day to watch the North Texas/UNLV game!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!

December 9, 2013  09:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Ask USC. They used last year's Sun Bowl as a way to trash El Paso (a trend that continued with their basketball team this year) and show attitude. Karma bit them on that count.

Great comment coming from an USC hater.

December 9, 2013  09:53 AM ET

Here is the thing as I see it regarding lesser Bowl games. For any coach or school to turn down any Bowl game is to say to the players on that team that you were soooo disappointing and lousy that you do not deserve ANY reward at seasons end. But you work hard for next year for us kid.

December 9, 2013  10:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Do any of these bowls matter. Sans the biggie bowl, most schools use these bowls as funsy wunsy or the beginning of 2014...or a combination of both.

They matter a great deal especially for the little conferences. Bowling Green knocking Northern Ill out of the BCS cost the MAC millions in shared revenue.

December 9, 2013  10:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Here is the thing as I see it regarding lesser Bowl games. For any coach or school to turn down any Bowl game is to say to the players on that team that you were soooo disappointing and lousy that you do not deserve ANY reward at seasons end. But you work hard for next year for us kid.

Depends on how the season ended. If the coach feels like the team quit toward the end of the season and it's full of seniors why reward them for going 6-6? Clean house and bring in guys who want to play.

 
December 9, 2013  10:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Yes these Bowl games matter. I can't wait until New Years day to watch the North Texas/UNLV game!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!

What you got against Mean Green and Runnin' Rebels?

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