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07:37 AM ET 12.13 | Over the past two seasons, franchise success has come back in these major league seasons. Yet the way the Cleveland Indians, Pittsburgh Pirates and Baltimore Orioles are conducting off-season business, their owners seem satisfied with their mere cameos. Major League Baseball teams are bloated with money, spending $1.7 billion -- with a B -- so far this winter, but these blue-collar franchises with passionate fan bases are acting as if we're back in the '50s. ... If the Orioles, Pirates and Indians fall short in 2014, and go back to their losing ways, the fans won't be coming after the players or front office. It will be owners Peter Angelos, Bob Nutting and Larry Dolan feeling the heat. They need to decide if they want to stay in this high-stakes game.

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December 13, 2013  08:13 AM ET
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No, they're not They don't have the bucks to spend of teams such as the Yankees and Dodgers. They have to be cautious, because a big-dollar mistake hurts them for half a decade.I'd take the Pirates' future over the Yankees right now.

That's just a ridiculous statement Abe. I could understand the immediate future, say the next two years. But the entire future of a struggling franchise over a team with the Yankees' track record? If honesty is the best policy, which I believe, then you're allowing your hatred of the Yankees to cloud your thinking.

December 13, 2013  08:41 AM ET

Sometimes the Signings and Trades are the ones you don't make, standing pat is an option, maybe they feel, they improve from within!

December 13, 2013  09:04 AM ET
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That's just a ridiculous statement Abe. I could understand the immediate future, say the next two years. But the entire future of a struggling franchise over a team with the Yankees' track record? If honesty is the best policy, which I believe, then you're allowing your hatred of the Yankees to cloud your thinking.

I could care less about the Yanks and I would agree 100% with Mr. President! The Pirates have a solid roster with the reigning MVP and made the playoffs. What do the Yanks have?

Its not about what you've won in the past its about what you will win in the future!

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December 13, 2013  09:21 AM ET
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No, they're not They don't have the bucks to spend of teams such as the Yankees and Dodgers. They have to be cautious, because a big-dollar mistake hurts them for half a decade.I'd take the Pirates' future over the Yankees right now.

I'll agree with you in so far as the Pirates just don't have the money to spend on big free agent signings. If a smaller market team signs some high priced player and he's a dud they are really hurt by it. For the Yankees, Dodgers and other big market teams it creates a minor problem.

One of the reasons the Pirates aren't making any moves is they have a decent team to start with and they have some pretty good kids that should be able to make the jump from the minors to the bigs this year.

Truth be told if they have another season like last year, I'm happy. After the last 22 years that was almost like winning the world series.

December 13, 2013  09:24 AM ET
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I hate the Yankees, but I agree with you.The Yankees have too many resources to be counted out for very long, if at all. For the last decade I've heard people saying how old the Yankees are and how they're going down the tubes, yet they don't. I'd love to see it happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.

You can say that we've got a few issues to correct and a rough couple of years coming compared to where we've been, but I just couldn't let a comment like that float on by without a reply. The Pirates entire future over the Yankees. Like you say Slink, too many resources vs. much less resources.

December 13, 2013  09:28 AM ET
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I'll agree with you in so far as the Pirates just don't have the money to spend on big free agent signings. If a smaller market team signs some high priced player and he's a dud they are really hurt by it. For the Yankees, Dodgers and other big market teams it creates a minor problem. One of the reasons the Pirates aren't making any moves is they have a decent team to start with and they have some pretty good kids that should be able to make the jump from the minors to the bigs this year.Truth be told if they have another season like last year, I'm happy. After the last 22 years that was almost like winning the world series.

I hope they keep things going. I've been kind of a secondary fan of the Pirates since they had two local guys play for them...All-Star second baseman Dave Cash in the 70's and All-Star center fielder Andy Van Slyke.

December 13, 2013  09:31 AM ET
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I'll agree with you in so far as the Pirates just don't have the money to spend on big free agent signings. If a smaller market team signs some high priced player and he's a dud they are really hurt by it. For the Yankees, Dodgers and other big market teams it creates a minor problem. One of the reasons the Pirates aren't making any moves is they have a decent team to start with and they have some pretty good kids that should be able to make the jump from the minors to the bigs this year.Truth be told if they have another season like last year, I'm happy. After the last 22 years that was almost like winning the world series.

THIS!!!

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December 13, 2013  10:45 AM ET
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No, they're not They don't have the bucks to spend of teams such as the Yankees and Dodgers. They have to be cautious, because a big-dollar mistake hurts them for half a decade.I'd take the Pirates' future over the Yankees right now.

Angelos (Orioles) has plenty of cash from MASN; much more than the Nats get from it. He has no excuse not to spend.

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December 13, 2013  01:41 PM ET
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I hope they keep things going. I've been kind of a secondary fan of the Pirates since they had two local guys play for them...All-Star second baseman Dave Cash in the 70's and All-Star center fielder Andy Van Slyke.

If you remember Dave Cash, you're getting old like me. Those were the good old days. They used to have the top ten batting averages in the NL listed in the paper. At one point it almost looked like the Pirates starting line up.

Now they have some good pitching rotation and a couple more arms in AAA that might be ready and I'm hearing they have a kid who can play right field and hit too. All they need is a power hitting first baseman and they are good.

December 13, 2013  01:47 PM ET
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If you remember Dave Cash, you're getting old like me. Those were the good old days. They used to have the top ten batting averages in the NL listed in the paper. At one point it almost looked like the Pirates starting line up.Now they have some good pitching rotation and a couple more arms in AAA that might be ready and I'm hearing they have a kid who can play right field and hit too. All they need is a power hitting first baseman and they are good.

No 1st basemen close to the majors so they'll have to pick up a FA. Question is will it be an everyday player or a platoon with Gaby?

December 13, 2013  01:59 PM ET

The O's have the money.....They just choose not to spend it. And thus not compete for 1st place.

December 13, 2013  02:31 PM ET
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The O's have the money.....They just choose not to spend it. And thus not compete for 1st place.

Shameful...

December 13, 2013  03:27 PM ET
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No, they're not They don't have the bucks to spend of teams such as the Yankees and Dodgers. They have to be cautious, because a big-dollar mistake hurts them for half a decade.I'd take the Pirates' future over the Yankees right now.

maybe its time to get a new GM for every losin record team,,or should those teams clean up their coaches and managers sits??

December 13, 2013  03:29 PM ET
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The O's have the money.....They just choose not to spend it. And thus not compete for 1st place.

sometimes i don't if its the right thinking in the orioles,lets not forget the orioles spend like crazy's not too long ago and still failed miserable!!

 
December 13, 2013  03:31 PM ET
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Shameful...

i think its a shame if the club spend big and still fail,best thing to do???re-stuck your farm system and
develope a strong quality prospects for the long run!!!

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