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Rising tensions between Giants 'O' and 'D'

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07:25 AM ET 12.18 | Antrel Rolle admits 2013 has been an eye-opener of a season in New York, and teammate Mathias Kiwanuka confirmed Tuesday there was legitimate tension between the offense and defense during Sunday's loss. After the game, that tension surfaced in some post-game sniping between the units. "Yeah," Kiwanuka said. "Absolutely there's tension. We're human. We're a team. We consider ourselves like a family. Any family there are going to be issues that come up." ... Kiwanuka said it was almost surreal sitting there listening to coach Tom Coughlin's passionate post-game speech in which he called the performance of the offense "pathetic" and said he "felt sorry" for those players who didn't give it their all. "It was real," Kiwanuka said. "He was speaking from the heart. That's somebody's real heart, real passion."

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December 18, 2013  07:46 AM ET

STINK..STANK..STUNK!!

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December 18, 2013  08:13 AM ET

It's a bedwetting competition

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December 18, 2013  08:15 AM ET
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December 18, 2013  08:18 AM ET
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December 18, 2013  08:18 AM ET

Human and Stupid, Kiwi!!!!

December 18, 2013  08:33 AM ET

Starting with the QB who stinks to high heaven they ought to cut everyone on the team and start fresh.

December 18, 2013  08:48 AM ET
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December 18, 2013  08:58 AM ET
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Use a keyboard much?

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December 18, 2013  08:59 AM ET

Who woulda thunk the Jets would be the better NY team? That dubious honor is nothing to be proud of either at this moment.

December 18, 2013  09:15 AM ET

It starts with the coaching staff, who looks like they have lost control of the team, QB has had a terrible season, and then the defense cannot stop anybody from scoring , and all of this is a bad formula that causes turmoil on the team which all contributes to a losing season.

December 18, 2013  09:22 AM ET

I have a hard time blaming Gilbride, who was with them for 2 Lombardi's.

I have an easier time blaming a QB who tosses 81 picks in his last 62 games. Or at least the GM.

December 18, 2013  09:44 AM ET
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It starts with the coaching staff, who looks like they have lost control of the team, QB has had a terrible season, and then the defense cannot stop anybody from scoring , and all of this is a bad formula that causes turmoil on the team which all contributes to a losing season.

I disagree. It starts with a GM, Reese, and his scouting department that has been abysmal for five years. Coughlin is one of the better head coaches in the game, even today. But you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sht.

December 18, 2013  09:57 AM ET
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Starting with the QB who stinks to high heaven they ought to cut everyone on the team and start fresh.

Here is the root of it all: Per Pro Football Focus Manning has been pressured on 40.2 percent of his drop backs. Sacked 36 times, double last year, and Football Outsiders ranks the Giants 28th in run-blocking efficiency .

And there you have it. Brees looked like Tim couch when they played Seattle. He usually does when teams get after him. Look it up.

Eli Manning is shell shocked and with good reason has no faith in any part of their offensive play calling because he knows too many guys cannot do what the play calls for them to do.

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December 18, 2013  10:07 AM ET

So did they change their offense that much from last year ?

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December 18, 2013  10:12 AM ET
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So did they change their offense that much from last year ?

Injuries made them change C, RG, LG. The pressure is right up the middle a lot, the worst place for any QB to get pressure. RB is a mess, wilson a bust and injured, Brown, always injured and on and on. Hicks is awful and any team that gives him big money in FA is getting nothing for their bucks.

If you cannot block for the run or the pass, then it is all just a theory.

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