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07:40 AM ET 12.18 | Dustin Brown took the option of skipping Tuesday's morning skate, but he said plenty when asked about whether the Norris Trophies won by Ottawa's Erik Karlsson and Montreal's P.K. Subban suggest that producing points gives players an inside track on the award. "Those two guys in particular, I just don't see enough. I know they get a lot of points. ... For me, I see [Drew Doughty] night in and night out. When you see someone night in and night out, you have a different opinion I guess. Duncan Keith I think is another player, he's got a lot of points and he's on a high scoring team, but he controls the pace of the game. For me, it's harder to play against a guy who can control the pace of the game rather than the guy who has two assists on the power play. That's just for me."

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December 18, 2013  08:16 AM ET

OK....for more opinions on this, I asked our landscaper and plumber

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December 18, 2013  08:24 AM ET

Let the debate begin- what is more defining for the best defenseman- offensive attributes or defensive attributes, gentlemen pick your sides and weapons of choice. ;)

And of course the obligatory- Subban, Chara (they seem to be the favs) insults.

December 18, 2013  08:35 AM ET
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Let the debate begin- what is more defining for the best defenseman- offensive attributes or defensive attributes, gentlemen pick your sides and weapons of choice. ;)And of course the obligatory- Subban, Chara (they seem to be the favs) insults.

Gold Glove works the same way

December 18, 2013  09:03 AM ET

The stay at home defenseman who keeps the other team from scoring, but only picks up an occasional assist has absolutely no chance of winning the Norris. Orpik is a much better defenseman, but Letang is the one they nominate.

December 18, 2013  09:32 AM ET

The Norris should go to a player who excels in all three zones and in all situations. He should be your first choice on the ice at even strength, on the power play and on the penalty kill.

I'm with Dustin Brown on this one. Guys like Doughty and Keith are much more Norris-worthy than offensive defensemen like Subban and Karlsson.

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December 18, 2013  09:52 AM ET

Since Lidstrom retired they should just do away with this award.

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December 18, 2013  09:57 AM ET
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Get a grip. Maybe they should just go back to giving it to d-men who actually know how to skate backwards.

My all-seeing eye tells me not everyone gets sarcasm. And are you saying Lidstrom didn't know how to skate backwards, or are you talking about the current crop?

December 18, 2013  09:58 AM ET

WGAF? The thing doesn't mean s hit since they gave it to Randy Carlyle in 1981.

December 18, 2013  10:03 AM ET
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The Norris should go to a player who excels in all three zones and in all situations. He should be your first choice on the ice at even strength, on the power play and on the penalty kill.I'm with Dustin Brown on this one. Guys like Doughty and Keith are much more Norris-worthy than offensive defensemen like Subban and Karlsson.

Defensive defensemen are somewhat like offensive linemen...not many people notice them until they make a mistake. The big awards go to flash, those that score touchdowns/goals/points.

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December 18, 2013  10:10 AM ET
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Even Lidstrom's last Norris was a lifetime achievement award because he certainly wasn't the best d-man in hockey at that point in his career.

An alternate perspective: Lidstrom's last Norris was a make-up award for all the Norris Trophies he deserved before 2001.

December 18, 2013  10:14 AM ET
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OK....for more opinions on this, I asked our landscaper and plumber

No kidding. What's he going to say? My team mate sucks? I'd rather you vote for somebody else?

December 18, 2013  10:16 AM ET
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Let the debate begin- what is more defining for the best defenseman- offensive attributes or defensive attributes, gentlemen pick your sides and weapons of choice. ;)And of course the obligatory- Subban, Chara (they seem to be the favs) insults.

We know Hank's dying to voice his approval of Zdeno Chara as the top candidate! ;-)

December 18, 2013  10:19 AM ET
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Get a grip. Maybe they should just go back to giving it to d-men who actually know how to skate backwards.

Sure! But, that would put Chara out of the running.

December 18, 2013  10:22 AM ET
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Defensive defensemen are somewhat like offensive linemen...not many people notice them until they make a mistake. The big awards go to flash, those that score touchdowns/goals/points.

while I agree with this...that isn't howit should be...or just change the name and/or spell out the criteria.

 
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