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07:20 AM ET 12.30 | Rob Chudzinski is out -- which leaves the Browns again looking for a head coach. I have no idea if the Josh McDaniels (New England offensive coordinator) rumors are right. But McDaniels began his career in Denver with a 6-0 record, and ended 8-8. With a possible playoff berth pending, that team lost 44-24 to Kansas City in 2009. He opened the 2010 season at 3-9 and was fired. ... It's possible McDaniels will improve with another shot at being a head coach, but what makes him more attractive than Chudzinski? McDaniels is a John Carroll graduate and he'd love the job. ... In Denver, McDaniels was given a lot of power when it came to player personnel. No matter who is the Browns coach, it seems the Banner/Lombardi front office will be picking the players. That actually could help a younger coach such as McDaniels.

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December 30, 2013  07:29 AM ET

However, the Belichick coaching tree is loaded with failures.

December 30, 2013  07:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

However, the Belichick coaching tree is loaded with failures.

Yep.

Plus, I'm not sure I'd want to go work for a team that likes to fire a coach after a single season. Sure, Chudzinski will get whatever he's owed in his contract, but releasing a coach after a single season doesn't make sense, unless the team in question was to have gone 0-16.

December 30, 2013  07:41 AM ET

Mike Shanahan is a perfect example of why coaches should have limited responsibility where personnel decisions are concerned.

If you have a GM, use him.

December 30, 2013  07:46 AM ET

Tebow is about to take to the practice field.

December 30, 2013  07:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Yep.Plus, I'm not sure I'd want to go work for a team that likes to fire a coach after a single season. Sure, Chudzinski will get whatever he's owed in his contract, but releasing a coach after a single season doesn't make sense, unless the team in question was to have gone 0-16.

True and there will be a lot of other opportunities and better ones at that available after today.

December 30, 2013  08:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Yep.Plus, I'm not sure I'd want to go work for a team that likes to fire a coach after a single season. Sure, Chudzinski will get whatever he's owed in his contract, but releasing a coach after a single season doesn't make sense, unless the team in question was to have gone 0-16.

it does seem like they pulled the plug on Chudzinski quickly, but remember the Trent Richardson trade. Maybe some one in the Browns organization finally has a clue...

December 30, 2013  08:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

it does seem like they pulled the plug on Chudzinski quickly, but remember the Trent Richardson trade. Maybe some one in the Browns organization finally has a clue...

That may be reaching.

December 30, 2013  08:08 AM ET

The only team in the NFL that plays Russian roulette with a round in each chamber. McDaniels is NOT their answer. Look to Briles or Shaw. Stay away from the Belichik lines. Far more failure than success stemming from it.

December 30, 2013  08:09 AM ET

He could go to Cleveland for a 2 year stint and be perennial backstops of the AFC North. Or he can stay in New England with his family, for aboot half the salary annually for the next 5 years.
If he's a gambling man he takes the job and hopes the Patriots re-sign him in two years.
If he's smart he waits for a better opportunity to arrise (Cincinnati 3 years from now when they've got no SB, San Diego when they're trying to rebuild after releasing Philip Rivers after next year, Miami Dolphins after next year when everybody realises Joe is just another Tony Sporano or New York (Giants) either after this season or 2 years from now).

December 30, 2013  08:10 AM ET
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Mike Shanahan is a perfect example of why coaches should have limited responsibility where personnel decisions are concerned.If you have a GM, use him.

What if your team doesn't have a GM ?

December 30, 2013  08:22 AM ET

Over the years the Browns have put themselves in the hole they are in now with bad trades, draft picks, looking for a leader at QB, which all of the above leads to firings of head coaches in Cleveland.

December 30, 2013  08:23 AM ET

I have a feeling Bill O'Brien may be their target.

December 30, 2013  08:26 AM ET

Maybe if there is an entrenched GM in place making personnel decisions maybe McDaniels can succeed, but he really blew chunks in Denver. Mike Nolan's defense made miracles happen with smoke and mirrors to get Denver to that 6-0 start and then when McDaniels couldn't get along with Nolan, they went 2-8 and Nolan was gone at the end of the season. Josh has no feel for defensive talent or coaching and tends to surround himself with yes men. His brother was hired away from an assistant job in High School to be the QB coach, for example.

December 30, 2013  08:45 AM ET
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However, the Belichick coaching tree is loaded with failures.

Yes sir. As great of a head coach as the hoodie is, he's one of the worst coaching mentors in the league.

December 30, 2013  08:57 AM ET

More recycling of garbage. McDaniels is one of the worst.

December 30, 2013  08:59 AM ET

Yes, McDaniels was only 11-17 in his first gig, but remember that Belichick was 36-44 in five seasons as HC before the Pats gave him a second chance. Of course, he went from a lousy organization (the Browns) to a well-run organization. McDaniels would be an idiot to take a job in Cleveland where even very good coaches fail. It would be a second strike on his record. Cleveland is a job only for the very desperate.

December 30, 2013  09:01 AM ET
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Mike Shanahan is a perfect example of why coaches should have limited responsibility where personnel decisions are concerned.If you have a GM, use him.

One anecdotal example -- and not a very good one. Every D.C. coach has failed under Snyder. It has nothing to do with personnel decisions. Yes, teams need good GMs, but a GM and the HC need to work in close concert on personnel decisions.

December 30, 2013  09:02 AM ET

Too easy to just say a guy is not HC material. BB got fired in Cleveland then he was recycled too. McDaniels didn't leave a bare cupboard in Denver. He is a smart guy and sometimes you got to fail a little to learn anything.

December 30, 2013  09:05 AM ET

"@RapSheet: The #Vikings have fired coach Leslie Frazier."

 
December 30, 2013  09:06 AM ET
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"@RapSheet: The #Vikings have fired coach Leslie Frazier."

Down goes Frazier?

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