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Will Boston make another Wily Mo Pena deal?

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07:26 AM ET 12.30 | This sets up as a familiar story. The Red Sox believed they had an overabundance of starting pitchers entering the 2006 season. The acquisition of Josh Beckett from the Marlins set up a rotation that also included Curt Schilling, David Wells, Tim Wakefield, and Matt Clement. A young lefthander named Jon Lester was on the way, too. As spring training started to wind down, the Sox traded an extra starter, 29-year-old righthander Bronson Arroyo, to the Reds for Wily Mo Pena, a linebacker-sized 24-year-old outfielder with great power but a fleeting grasp of the strike zone. The well-intentioned move failed miserably. With the same apparent overabundance of starters coming off their 2013 World Series championship, the Sox have to avoid making a similar well-intentioned but harmful deal.

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December 30, 2013  07:54 AM ET

Let's hope NOT!!!

December 30, 2013  08:11 AM ET

Different era in Boston now.

December 30, 2013  08:21 AM ET

Bronson had a nice run in Cincy, but I don't believe he would have enjoyed the same success if he stayed in the AL East.

December 30, 2013  08:44 AM ET

No, no they won't

December 30, 2013  08:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

No, no they won't

Morning PK.

December 30, 2013  09:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Morning PK.

hey clem
hows things?

December 30, 2013  09:32 AM ET

I think to include a soon to be 37 year old Dempster a to be 33 year old Peavey and Doubrant as an " Over abundance " of starting pitchers is pushing the envelope a bit far. Not one of them had an ERA lower than 4.30 . If the top three stay healthy for a year, they will do as backenders.

December 30, 2013  09:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Bronson had a nice run in Cincy, but I don't believe he would have enjoyed the same success if he stayed in the AL East.

The Yanks were pounding the hell out of Bronson before he left the AL...they realized his breaking stuff rarely got over the plate and waited on 89mph fastballs to tee off on.
The whole Wily Mo Pena deal happened because Manny was unhappy and Boston wanted to get rid of him. There were serious trade discussions during the 2005 season and they continued into the offseason...the Bosox picked up WMP to plug into LF if they actually got rid of Manny. The Bosox worked a lot with WMP on his plate approach in '06 and he actually hit over .300 with an OBP near .250 while retaining good power, but then he had no home once it was clear Manny was going to stay and they dumped him off on Washington when he resumed his wild swinging ways. Wily Mo looked like he could be really something, hit 26 HRs in about 2/3 of a season with the Reds when he was only 22.

How many people remember that Manny was put on IRREVOCABLE waivers after the '03 season? The Bosox couldn't have stopped any team from taking him and that massive contract, but NOBODY WANTED HIM.

December 30, 2013  09:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

The Yanks were pounding the hell out of Bronson before he left the AL...they realized his breaking stuff rarely got over the plate and waited on 89mph fastballs to tee off on.The whole Wily Mo Pena deal happened because Manny was unhappy and Boston wanted to get rid of him. There were serious trade discussions during the 2005 season and they continued into the offseason...the Bosox picked up WMP to plug into LF if they actually got rid of Manny. The Bosox worked a lot with WMP on his plate approach in '06 and he actually hit over .300 with an OBP near .250 while retaining good power, but then he had no home once it was clear Manny was going to stay and they dumped him off on Washington when he resumed his wild swinging ways. Wily Mo looked like he could be really something, hit 26 HRs in about 2/3 of a season with the Reds when he was only 22.How many people remember that Manny was put on IRREVOCABLE waivers after the '03 season? The Bosox couldn't have stopped any team from taking him and that massive contract, but NOBODY WANTED HIM.

Sorry, his OBP was nearly .350 in '06 with Boston (and he still slugged .489).

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December 30, 2013  09:54 AM ET
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I do. Sometimes things just work out.

I think Manny ended up earning his money (maybe not in a clean way), but there were plenty of times I wouldn't have minded seeing him go. He was a superstar hitter, but with Little League defense.

December 30, 2013  10:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

The Yanks were pounding the hell out of Bronson before he left the AL...they realized his breaking stuff rarely got over the plate and waited on 89mph fastballs to tee off on.The whole Wily Mo Pena deal happened because Manny was unhappy and Boston wanted to get rid of him. There were serious trade discussions during the 2005 season and they continued into the offseason...the Bosox picked up WMP to plug into LF if they actually got rid of Manny. The Bosox worked a lot with WMP on his plate approach in '06 and he actually hit over .300 with an OBP near .250 while retaining good power, but then he had no home once it was clear Manny was going to stay and they dumped him off on Washington when he resumed his wild swinging ways. Wily Mo looked like he could be really something, hit 26 HRs in about 2/3 of a season with the Reds when he was only 22.How many people remember that Manny was put on IRREVOCABLE waivers after the '03 season? The Bosox couldn't have stopped any team from taking him and that massive contract, but NOBODY WANTED HIM.

I do

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December 30, 2013  11:06 AM ET
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Yep. Manny helped with two WS titles, but I never liked the guy. I was honestly glad to see him go for Jason Bay.

Even though Bay fell apart as a hitter after leaving Boston, he remains a very good base stealer (if not especially prolific). He stole 26 bases and was only caught twice over 3 partial seasons with the Mets. He must be pretty smart about it because his speed already seemed to be gone when he came over from the Pirates.

December 30, 2013  11:11 AM ET
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I loved Manny. He was my favorite player until he assaulted that old timer from Boston's front office.

I did love it when Manny cut off Damon's throw from the fence...it may have actually helped given how bad Johnny's arm was.
Manny generated tremendous power from a uncomplicated, seemingly low effort swing...even though he didn't have a wide stance, Manny's front foot barely moved forward at all. An iconoclastic swing that really worked, probably with some chemical assistance.

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December 30, 2013  11:36 AM ET
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There was a goofy, childlike innocence about him that I appreciated. That is, until

That's how I saw him too - A big kid playing the game.

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