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07:28 AM ET 01.21 | In the course of a week, the Knicks have gone from hope back to something approximating hopelessness. [The truth] is the Knicks have reached the most depressing point of a most depressing season because it isn't only about losing anymore, about the wildly inconsistent offense and the inexcusable defense that too often defines these nightly adventures. Because now, this is a team that is inching toward outright, open rebellion. A couple of nights ago it was [Carmelo Anthony] talking about the lack of adjustments the Knicks make. This time it was the Knicks' other veteran spokesman, Tyson Chandler, who decided that the time is long passed for subtlety and tact. "They out-schemed us," Chandler said. And really, how can it get any lower than that?

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January 21, 2014  08:13 AM ET

You mean the players are revolting?

(Insert rimshot here.)

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January 21, 2014  08:34 AM ET

So, who's going to be the new coach of the Knicks next year and will they still have melo?

January 21, 2014  08:35 AM ET
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what a debacle ...again yesterday...thank god I had the good sense to shut that trash off at the half and not waste any more time watching the Knicks......I was saying this since the washington game....woody is just not a good head coach...always switching on D....deferring to the gunners on the offensive end...I wish ( idiot ) dolan would finally give herb willaims a shot

Will you join JGB soon? JGB got it right from the beginning of the season. Time to get off tha shiphole!

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January 21, 2014  08:49 AM ET
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Nope....true fan here....and it will make it that much sweeter if they ever win in my lifetime

If you were a true fan, you'd realize that this is not the same team that you grew up with. It is dolans late term abortion that somehow stayed alive

You continuing to watch and support this team is why things will never change
You are staying loyal to DOLAN....

January 21, 2014  09:30 AM ET

Picked The Wrong Year To Tank, Bros.

January 21, 2014  09:32 AM ET
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If you were a true fan, you'd realize that this is not the same team that you grew up with. It is dolans late term abortion that somehow stayed aliveYou continuing to watch and support this team is why things will never changeYou are staying loyal to DOLAN....

It's really sad to watch, Felton is REALLY freaking bad!

January 21, 2014  09:44 AM ET

CHICAGO -- Kobe Bryant said it's been hard to watch the Los Angeles Lakers as they've struggled in his absence, but it turns out he doesn't like watching the NBA in general with the way it is currently being played and officiated across the league.

"It's more of a finesse game," Bryant said before the Lakers played the Chicago Bulls on Monday. "It's more small ball, which, personally, I don't really care much for. I like kind of smash-mouth, old-school basketball because that's what I grew up watching. I also think it's much, much less physical. Some of the flagrant fouls that I see called nowadays, it makes me nauseous. You can't touch a guy without it being a flagrant foul."

Bryant said that the hand-check rule that was introduced nearly a decade ago during the 2004-05 season has made it easier for less-talented players to succeed. Bryant said Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni is at least partially responsible for the shift in style of play across the league.

Kobe Bryant talked about Derrick Rose and working out as a high schooler with Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau, then an assistant with the 76ers, writes Nick Friedell. Blog

"I like the contact," Bryant said. "As a defensive player, if you enjoy playing defense, that's what you want. You want to be able to put your hands on a guy. You want to be able to hand check a little bit. The truth is, it makes the game [where] players have to be more skillful. Nowadays, literally anybody can get out there and get to the basket and you can't touch anybody. Back then, if guys put their hands on you, you had to have the skill to be able to go both ways, change direction, post up, you had to have a mid-range game because you didn't want to go all the way to the basket because you would get knocked **** over tea kettle. So I think playing the game back then required much more skill."

Of course, Bryant has scored close to 5,000 points on free throws since the '04-05 season, but he said he doesn't think the rule change has benefited his career in any tangible way.

"Probably not," Bryant said. "Us players, upper-echelon players, are going to do what they do no matter what the rules are. It's not going to make any difference."

Is there any chance the league could revert back to the no harm, no foul ways of the 1980s?

"Kids might be a little too sensitive for that nowadays," Bryant said with a smirk.

January 21, 2014  09:45 AM ET

Kobe isn't wrong, the NBA is getting softer. So is the NFL. I'm glad to know i'm not theonly one who prefers a more smash mouth style of sports since it lends to better performances, a more physical and fun game, and defenses can really shine. I'm a defensive first guy so it grinds my gears abit to see all the major sports do all they can to favor offense over defense. Defensive players are players too. Hand checking definitely allowed the more skilled players to shine.

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January 21, 2014  09:56 AM ET
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Im not ready to go the nomad route yet....I dont even know who I would root for ....heck maybe the nets, since they are a NY team.....I hate Dolan

see that is the beauty of nomad life

you can root for whomever, hate whomever...
but you don't have that angst that cames from rooting for a
pathetically run organization

Trust me - it has lowered my blood pressure....
my hair grew back,
my forehead wrinkles have disappeared....

its been a great 6 months

January 21, 2014  09:58 AM ET
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You mean the players are revolting?(Insert rimshot here.)

Bye Bye Woodie!

January 21, 2014  09:59 AM ET
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Im not ready to go the nomad route yet....I dont even know who I would root for ....heck maybe the nets, since they are a NY team.....I hate Dolan

The sad part about the NBA this year is there aren't many good teams to root for.

January 21, 2014  10:00 AM ET
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Nope....true fan here....and it will make it that much sweeter if they ever win in my lifetime

How old are you? Are you giving the Knicks enough time?

January 21, 2014  10:03 AM ET
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How old are you? Are you giving the Knicks enough time?

Dang...

Keep them above the belt line please!

January 21, 2014  10:06 AM ET
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The sad part about the NBA this year is there aren't many good teams to root for.

This may be the weakest i've seen the NBA since the turn of the 21st century MMA. There are but a handful of teams capable of competing. This is what happens with a bad CBA that empowers the players over doing whats best for the fans/owners and spreading the talent out. This year though, there is a lot of injuries in the league and that is compounding the issue. I just don't remember the NBA being THIS top heavy since the late 90's

January 21, 2014  10:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

How old are you? Are you giving the Knicks enough time?

Dang...low blow. Keep them above the belt line please!

January 21, 2014  10:09 AM ET
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Im not ready to go the nomad route yet....I dont even know who I would root for ....heck maybe the nets, since they are a NY team.....I hate Dolan

Admit it, Lunch. You fishing for an excuse to root for the Cavs. Then you could arrange a trip there and attend a game with your best bud LTCF! (Of course I'm just funning -- don't take offense).

 
January 21, 2014  10:10 AM ET
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This may be the weakest i've seen the NBA since the turn of the 21st century MMA. There are but a handful of teams capable of competing. This is what happens with a bad CBA that empowers the players over doing whats best for the fans/owners and spreading the talent out. This year though, there is a lot of injuries in the league and that is compounding the issue. I just don't remember the NBA being THIS top heavy since the late 90's

Two things are a big factor this year. Key injuries to important stars and many teams are tanking also.

It's very unfun to watch the NBA this year.

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