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07:35 AM ET 02.12 | Ben Edwards had known for some time that he'd be headed to Ohio State, by way of the Sunshine State. After having only one commitment from Florida in the 2014 class in Johnnie Dixon of West Palm Beach, the Buckeyes' now have two for 2015. Urban Meyer will continue to attack the Sunshine State, more specifically at Edwards' high school. Edwards has two teammates in the 2015 class who also have Ohio State scholarships -- five-star cornerback Kevin Toliver II and four-star linebacker Jeffery Holland. Toliver is Rivals' top cornerback in the class and an LSU commit, while Holland is the No. 4 outside linebacker. Ohio State would love to get its hands on both. Edwards says that's his first task as an Ohio State commit. "I know they are both already big on Ohio State," Edwards said.

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February 12, 2014  07:42 AM ET

So THIS is the B1G school TOBC was alluding to in his hissy fit. Deal with it, SEC!

February 12, 2014  07:48 AM ET

Meyer is not fooling around! I love it.

February 12, 2014  08:02 AM ET

Okay an OSU thread. I will post here. Anybody care to comment on this? Any truth to this?



Via Bucknuts...

*Days Of Our Buckeyes . We had been waiting until after signing day to tell you this story for two reasons: One, our source asked us to hold the information until the 2014 recruiting class was all signed up. And two, even if he didn't make that request, we wouldn't have wanted to rock the OSU recruiting boat so close to signing day.

Well, leave it to a Bucknuts subscriber to spill the beans. Front Row message board member "tOSUHook" posted yesterday that there was a serious altercation between Mike Vrabel and Urban Meyer. Some fans questioned the validity of the post. You shouldn't. It happened and we're about to tell you all about it.

The incident occurred in early December -- the week before the contest against Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game. Ohio State had just given up 603 yards and 41 points to a porous Michigan offense and barely escaped with a one-point victory.

Well, strength coach Mickey Marotti - who is absolutely Meyer's right-hand man, was ribbing Luke Fickell about "not getting his guys juiced up enough" before games. No, he wasn't making a Jose Canseco reference. Marotti was suggesting that Fickell didn't get his guys fired up enough.
Then Meyer walked in and joined in on the banter. And while we're told Marotti's criticism of Fickell was somewhat light-hearted, Meyer was a bit more serious. He told Fickell that he needs to do a better job of getting the defensive players emotionally ready to go before kickoff.
Well, just then Mike Vrabel walks in and hears this conversation. According to an impeccable source, Vrabel went off. He felt that Marotti and Meyer were going after Fickell unfairly and Vrabel screamed at both of them. The shouting match escalated and it got to the point where Vrabel actually put his hands on Meyer. Didn't punch him, but did put his hands on him. (We've heard varying stories from two different sources: One says Vrabel put his hand around Meyer's neck and pinned him up against a wall; the other source says Vrabel grabbed the shirt collar and it wasn't quite as violent as the other source is making it seem.)

We're told it didn't happen right away since OSU was still undefeated at the time and very much in the national championship race, but eventually Vrabel was told he needed to find a new job. They decided they were going to try and keep everything in-house and make it look like an amicable split.
One major difference in what we've been told by sources regarding the incident and the post from "tOSUHook" is that the altercation between Meyer and Vrabel did not happen just days before Vrabel left for the Houston Texans. In fact, it happened over a month before Vrabel joined Bill O'Brien's staff. Like we said, the incident happened the week between the Michigan and Michigan State games. Vrabel didn't leave for the Texans' gig until Jan. 9.

So, there you go. We would apologize to you for not telling you about this earlier, but we can't burn sources. Especially really good ones. We were asked to hold the information until after signing day and that's what we did.

February 12, 2014  08:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Okay an OSU thread. I will post here. Anybody care to comment on this? Any truth to this?Via Bucknuts... *Days Of Our Buckeyes . We had been waiting until after signing day to tell you this story for two reasons: One, our source asked us to hold the information until the 2014 recruiting class was all signed up. And two, even if he didn't make that request, we wouldn't have wanted to rock the OSU recruiting boat so close to signing day.Well, leave it to a Bucknuts subscriber to spill the beans. Front Row message board member "tOSUHook" posted yesterday that there was a serious altercation between Mike Vrabel and Urban Meyer. Some fans questioned the validity of the post. You shouldn't. It happened and we're about to tell you all about it.The incident occurred in early December -- the week before the contest against Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game. Ohio State had just given up 603 yards and 41 points to a porous Michigan offense and barely escaped with a one-point victory.Well, strength coach Mickey Marotti - who is absolutely Meyer's right-hand man, was ribbing Luke Fickell about "not getting his guys juiced up enough" before games. No, he wasn't making a Jose Canseco reference. Marotti was suggesting that Fickell didn't get his guys fired up enough.Then Meyer walked in and joined in on the banter. And while we're told Marotti's criticism of Fickell was somewhat light-hearted, Meyer was a bit more serious. He told Fickell that he needs to do a better job of getting the defensive players emotionally ready to go before kickoff.Well, just then Mike Vrabel walks in and hears this conversation. According to an impeccable source, Vrabel went off. He felt that Marotti and Meyer were going after Fickell unfairly and Vrabel screamed at both of them. The shouting match escalated and it got to the point where Vrabel actually put his hands on Meyer. Didn't punch him, but did put his hands on him. (We've heard varying stories from two different sources: One says Vrabel put his hand around Meyer's neck and pinned him up against a wall; the other source says Vrabel grabbed the shirt collar and it wasn't quite as violent as the other source is making it seem.)We're told it didn't happen right away since OSU was still undefeated at the time and very much in the national championship race, but eventually Vrabel was told he needed to find a new job. They decided they were going to try and keep everything in-house and make it look like an amicable split.One major difference in what we've been told by sources regarding the incident and the post from "tOSUHook" is that the altercation between Meyer and Vrabel did not happen just days before Vrabel left for the Houston Texans. In fact, it happened over a month before Vrabel joined Bill O'Brien's staff. Like we said, the incident happened the week between the Michigan and Michigan State games. Vrabel didn't leave for the Texans' gig until Jan. 9.So, there you go. We would apologize to you for not telling you about this earlier, but we can't burn sources. Especially really good ones. We were asked to hold the information until after signing day and that's what we did.

I heard the same rumor but it was likely through Bucknuts...

February 12, 2014  08:19 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

and it got to the point where Vrabel actually put his hands on Meyer. Didn't punch him, but did put his hands on him.

How many Gator fans out there that would like to trade places with Vrabel?

February 12, 2014  08:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Okay an OSU thread. I will post here. Anybody care to comment on this? Any truth to this?Via Bucknuts... *Days Of Our Buckeyes . We had been waiting until after signing day to tell you this story for two reasons: One, our source asked us to hold the information until the 2014 recruiting class was all signed up. And two, even if he didn't make that request, we wouldn't have wanted to rock the OSU recruiting boat so close to signing day.Well, leave it to a Bucknuts subscriber to spill the beans. Front Row message board member "tOSUHook" posted yesterday that there was a serious altercation between Mike Vrabel and Urban Meyer. Some fans questioned the validity of the post. You shouldn't. It happened and we're about to tell you all about it.The incident occurred in early December -- the week before the contest against Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game. Ohio State had just given up 603 yards and 41 points to a porous Michigan offense and barely escaped with a one-point victory.Well, strength coach Mickey Marotti - who is absolutely Meyer's right-hand man, was ribbing Luke Fickell about "not getting his guys juiced up enough" before games. No, he wasn't making a Jose Canseco reference. Marotti was suggesting that Fickell didn't get his guys fired up enough.Then Meyer walked in and joined in on the banter. And while we're told Marotti's criticism of Fickell was somewhat light-hearted, Meyer was a bit more serious. He told Fickell that he needs to do a better job of getting the defensive players emotionally ready to go before kickoff.Well, just then Mike Vrabel walks in and hears this conversation. According to an impeccable source, Vrabel went off. He felt that Marotti and Meyer were going after Fickell unfairly and Vrabel screamed at both of them. The shouting match escalated and it got to the point where Vrabel actually put his hands on Meyer. Didn't punch him, but did put his hands on him. (We've heard varying stories from two different sources: One says Vrabel put his hand around Meyer's neck and pinned him up against a wall; the other source says Vrabel grabbed the shirt collar and it wasn't quite as violent as the other source is making it seem.)We're told it didn't happen right away since OSU was still undefeated at the time and very much in the national championship race, but eventually Vrabel was told he needed to find a new job. They decided they were going to try and keep everything in-house and make it look like an amicable split.One major difference in what we've been told by sources regarding the incident and the post from "tOSUHook" is that the altercation between Meyer and Vrabel did not happen just days before Vrabel left for the Houston Texans. In fact, it happened over a month before Vrabel joined Bill O'Brien's staff. Like we said, the incident happened the week between the Michigan and Michigan State games. Vrabel didn't leave for the Texans' gig until Jan. 9.So, there you go. We would apologize to you for not telling you about this earlier, but we can't burn sources. Especially really good ones. We were asked to hold the information until after signing day and that's what we did.

A good dust up every now and then clears the air...one way or the other.

But an orchestra out of harmony sounds like a train wreck.

February 12, 2014  08:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

... train wreck.

Which is what tOSU became in the last weeks of their season. Lotta bad judgment clouded relations on the Buckeye staff, it would appear.

February 12, 2014  08:40 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Which is what tOSU became in the last weeks of their season. Lotta bad judgment clouded relations on the Buckeye staff, it would appear.

Appears that way. Question is can it get back on the rails?

I think talent can mask a lot of problems. If the recruiting turns out to be as good as rated, your bucknuts will be fine.

The other extreme is it could turn into a UTx, Florida or USC flop.

February 12, 2014  09:59 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

How many Gator fans out there that would like to trade places with Vrabel?

Nah, not this Gatah. Gotta let it geaux.


We did get 2 nice tabletop crystal ornaments from Urb's efforts, irrespective of the situation post-departure.

February 12, 2014  10:19 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

But an orchestra out of harmony sounds like a train wreck.

We have gotten so high class on here this week discussing orchestras, politics and social issues.. Is ballet and backgammon next? :-)

February 12, 2014  10:47 AM ET

What, no LUS whining about another flat tire/wheel off/fence down, courtesy of Urbie?

smh


Dude is getting slack in his old age..... ;-)

February 12, 2014  10:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

So THIS is the B1G school TOBC was alluding to in his hissy fit. Deal with it, SEC!

Likely not the only one, though tOSU may be perceived as the most threatening. The OVT is a bitter soul. He'd **** about tears from a statue of the Virgin Mary if he thought it to be distracting to any USCe recruiting target.

February 12, 2014  10:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

How many Gator fans out there that would like to trade places with Vrabel?

I'd hate having to try and pronounce the Vr sound.....

February 12, 2014  11:08 AM ET

Didnt vrabel leave for Houston? Is that the cause/reason?

February 12, 2014  11:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Didnt vrabel leave for Houston? Is that the cause/reason?

Reading is fundamental

February 12, 2014  12:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

How many Gator fans out there that would like to trade places with Vrabel?

I know of at least one 'Noles fan that would like to choke Mr. Meyer.

February 12, 2014  12:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

How many Gator fans out there that would like to trade places with Vrabel?

I know of at least one 'Noles fan that would like to choke Mr. Meyer.

February 12, 2014  12:21 PM ET

UM is a prick and I'm sure he deserved it. That said id fire his azzz too

February 12, 2014  12:41 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Reading is fundamental

I read that he left for Houston, I'm saying is this the reason or cause for him to leave or did he get offered the Houston deal after and just decide to go without this being a factor.

 
February 12, 2014  12:42 PM ET

Just cause he took the gig Jan. 9th, Im sure this issue would have been water under the bridge by then. Or did Vrabel hold a grudge.

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