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Bob Stoops: No evidence up-tempo offenses are unsafe

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09:26 AM ET 02.22 | Throughout Oklahoma's 45-31 Sugar Bowl victory over Alabama, no Crimson Tide defenders left the game with injuries caused by the Sooners' no-huddle offense. But a few Alabama defensive players were spotted racing to check their wristbands as OU quarterback Trevor Knight received the snap. "Bottom line, there's no evidence to support that it's unsafe," OU coach Bob Stoops told The Oklahoman on Friday, referring to up-tempo offense. "The offense is capable of operating without substitution, in all downs and distances," Stoops said. "If they're able to adjust to keep the same personnel on the field, they ought to be able to use whatever pace they want to. And the defense ought to be able to adjust."

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February 22, 2014  09:50 AM ET

BOOM. Stoops' assessment effectively blows up Bulimia's sickle cell argument.

February 22, 2014  09:55 AM ET

Saban will have to start considering intelligence in his recruiting criteria so they won't have to use wrist bands instead of memory.

February 22, 2014  10:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Saban will have to start considering intelligence in his recruiting criteria so they won't have to use wrist bands instead of memory.

Those gimmicky spread and HUNH offenses are no match for SEC defenses.

February 22, 2014  10:56 AM ET

they are only unsafe to the records of those who don't adapt to them

February 22, 2014  01:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

they are only unsafe to the records of those who don't adapt to them

Well, when a 330 lb lineman trips and falls because he's too winded to maintain his coordination ... that's pretty unsafe right there.

And when the play develops so fast that the safety isn't in position to blow the receiver up with a vicious hit that could be considered unsafe right there.

But the most unsafe aspect of all is the loss of confidence that comes with 5* recruits being disoriented and confused. It's not safe to their egos.

February 22, 2014  01:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Those gimmicky spread and HUNH offenses are no match for SEC defenses.

LOL, doesn't half of the SEC football programs use the "gimmicky spread and HUNH offenses"????
What offense did FLorida State use in the NC game against Auburn??? What type of offense did the Sooners use against Bama???

February 22, 2014  01:30 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Well, when a 330 lb lineman trips and falls because he's too winded to maintain his coordination ... that's pretty unsafe right there.And when the play develops so fast that the safety isn't in position to blow the receiver up with a vicious hit that could be considered unsafe right there.But the most unsafe aspect of all is the loss of confidence that comes with 5* recruits being disoriented and confused. It's not safe to their egos.

!;-) Excellent

February 22, 2014  02:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

they are only unsafe to the records of those who don't adapt to them

I'm sorry, what did you say? Lost my train of thought looking at your avi.

February 22, 2014  02:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Well, when a 330 lb lineman trips and falls because he's too winded to maintain his coordination ... that's pretty unsafe right there.And when the play develops so fast that the safety isn't in position to blow the receiver up with a vicious hit that could be considered unsafe right there.But the most unsafe aspect of all is the loss of confidence that comes with 5* recruits being disoriented and confused. It's not safe to their egos.

The only injury caused by the HUNH, is the deflation of Nicky's swollen head.

Don't they have an S&C coach at Bama? Get those 5-star fatboys in shape and STOP WHINING!

February 22, 2014  03:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

The only injury caused by the HUNH, is the deflation of Nicky's swollen head.Don't they have an S&C coach at Bama? Get those 5-star fatboys in shape and STOP WHINING!

Note to Nick and Brett as previously stated-Quit whining and figure how to slow down or stop the HUNH on the field and not but decree. If you can't win, you don't change the rules so that you can.

February 22, 2014  03:47 PM ET

Alabama had more injuries this year than Oregon. Will be interesting to see how this one turns out. Even the Playing Rules Oversight Panel knows Saban's whine is bogus.

February 22, 2014  03:51 PM ET

Note: This is why Saban threw out the player safety red herring .

The NCAA did not designate this as an offseason where rules changes could be made, with the exception being any that relate to player safety.

And there you have it. It will be pushed back again to look at next year because there is NO empirical data ( evidence) to show that there are more injuries in up tempo football....

February 22, 2014  04:03 PM ET

Fact:

" From 2010-2012, Saban's Alabama teams and Bielema's Wisconsin teams (before he came to Arkansas last season) were both in the bottom 10 nationally of plays per game generated on offense and faced on defense. Saban and Bielema lost a combined 95 starts to injury, with 44 of those, less than half, on defense.
From 2010-2012 Alabama lost a total of 30 starts to injury. Twenty-one of those were players on Alabama's bottom five slow pace of play offense. The nine games that Alabama defensive players lost to injury in that three-year period was the lowest total on any defense of teams that automatically qualified to play in a BCS bowl.
The other five teams (before league expansion) in the SEC West, that all played against the physical and methodically punishing Alabama offense, averaged 25.2 starts lost to injury over the same time period.
From 2009-2010 an SEC team played in an average of 162 snaps per game. In 2011-2012 the average dropped to 160. In spite of the slower pace, SEC teams lost 184 more starts to injury from 2011-2012 than they did in 2009-2010. Exactly 55% of the '11-'12 starts lost were on offense."

And now you know why Saban ' tried to run a backdoor play by quietly meeting with the NCAA football rules committee in Indianapolis recently.'

Where are all the Bama boosters when this subject keeps coming up?

February 22, 2014  04:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Fact:" From 2010-2012, Saban's Alabama teams and Bielema's Wisconsin teams (before he came to Arkansas last season) were both in the bottom 10 nationally of plays per game generated on offense and faced on defense. Saban and Bielema lost a combined 95 starts to injury, with 44 of those, less than half, on defense. From 2010-2012 Alabama lost a total of 30 starts to injury. Twenty-one of those were players on Alabama's bottom five slow pace of play offense. The nine games that Alabama defensive players lost to injury in that three-year period was the lowest total on any defense of teams that automatically qualified to play in a BCS bowl. The other five teams (before league expansion) in the SEC West, that all played against the physical and methodically punishing Alabama offense, averaged 25.2 starts lost to injury over the same time period. From 2009-2010 an SEC team played in an average of 162 snaps per game. In 2011-2012 the average dropped to 160. In spite of the slower pace, SEC teams lost 184 more starts to injury from 2011-2012 than they did in 2009-2010. Exactly 55% of the '11-'12 starts lost were on offense."And now you know why Saban ' tried to run a backdoor play by quietly meeting with the NCAA football rules committee in Indianapolis recently.'Where are all the Bama boosters when this subject keeps coming up?

Saban's players get injured because they are out-of-shape fatbodies. Rather than GET them into shape, he decided to try to change the rules.

The "emperor" has been exposed.

February 22, 2014  04:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Saban's players get injured because they are out-of-shape fatbodies. Rather than GET them into shape, he decided to try to change the rules.The "emperor" has been exposed.

The odd part about it is he makes no attempt to hide his changing the rules for his benefit and not the games....

February 22, 2014  05:46 PM ET

Advertisers find it difficult to spew their posion on the tube when an offense in a hurry up attack formation.
Thats the bottom line to this so called rule change.

Much like in the construction industry they always say "Safety first". Now hurry up and get this damn thing built,, time is money!

February 22, 2014  05:52 PM ET

Money always comes first, dont you forget it.

"Money its a hit,, dont give that good goody bulllshitt".

February 22, 2014  05:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Money always comes first, dont you forget it. "Money its a hit,, dont give that good goody bulllshitt".

True. Maybe that's why Bama can't afford a S&C coach. They're using that money for their players' salaries.

February 22, 2014  06:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Fact:" From 2010-2012, Saban's Alabama teams and Bielema's Wisconsin teams (before he came to Arkansas last season) were both in the bottom 10 nationally of plays per game generated on offense and faced on defense. Saban and Bielema lost a combined 95 starts to injury, with 44 of those, less than half, on defense. From 2010-2012 Alabama lost a total of 30 starts to injury. Twenty-one of those were players on Alabama's bottom five slow pace of play offense. The nine games that Alabama defensive players lost to injury in that three-year period was the lowest total on any defense of teams that automatically qualified to play in a BCS bowl. The other five teams (before league expansion) in the SEC West, that all played against the physical and methodically punishing Alabama offense, averaged 25.2 starts lost to injury over the same time period. From 2009-2010 an SEC team played in an average of 162 snaps per game. In 2011-2012 the average dropped to 160. In spite of the slower pace, SEC teams lost 184 more starts to injury from 2011-2012 than they did in 2009-2010. Exactly 55% of the '11-'12 starts lost were on offense."And now you know why Saban ' tried to run a backdoor play by quietly meeting with the NCAA football rules committee in Indianapolis recently.'Where are all the Bama boosters when this subject keeps coming up?

My initial assumption would have been that more plays equal more injuries.

But now I'm kind of wondering if the hurry-up no huddle offense is actually safer due to two key reasons:
- Better conditioning in practice (needed to run the offense)
- Smaller players (for speed & stamina)

What you end up with are guys who are in better shape making weaker hits (less body mass).

Even at the professional level. Look at what Chip Kelly did in his first season in Philadelphia. The Eagles did not place a single player on injured reserve this year.

If anything, the HUNH offense is safer on the players.

 
February 24, 2014  06:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

LOL, doesn't half of the SEC football programs use the "gimmicky spread and HUNH offenses"????What offense did FLorida State use in the NC game against Auburn??? What type of offense did the Sooners use against Bama???

Indeed. Bama ("the best defense in the SEC/nation/world*", snicker) lost to Auburn as well (how soon you forget!).
*according to all-knowing pundits

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