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Luck courting ex-teammate Jonathan Martin

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07:25 AM ET 02.27 | In the event Jonathan Martin leaves Miami, officially and for good, he might hope for a better workplace environment. For several weeks, if not longer, we've said that the Colts could be the best fit for [Martin], if/when (when) Martin leaves the Dolphins. Colts quarterback Andrew Luck believes it's a good fit, too. On Wednesday, Luck told Pro Football Talk on NBCSN that he supports the idea of the bringing his former Stanford teammate to Indy. While Luck pointed out that there have been no internal conversations regarding the possibility of trading for or signing Martin, Luck made it clear that he believes in Martin. "I'd say I love Jon, we had a great time at Stanford together, still stay in touch with him regularly and I think he's a great man," Luck said regarding the input he'd provide.

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February 27, 2014  07:35 AM ET

hmmm...soul mates???

February 27, 2014  07:51 AM ET

Don't push your Luck Andrew.

February 27, 2014  08:03 AM ET

Nice guy and all... but can he play NFL-level football?

So far, he's average at the very best. Friendships aside, that is what Luck should really be asking himself about Martin.

February 27, 2014  08:21 AM ET

uh oh



I feel another 'news conference' on it's way

February 27, 2014  08:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

uh ohI feel another 'news conference' on it's way

I hope not. We've heard enough from Martin and the whole mess in general.

February 27, 2014  08:26 AM ET

Not sure if the Colt's locker room has had their 'sensitivity' training yet.. They better get that taken care of before they hurt someones feelings..

February 27, 2014  08:42 AM ET

Walking the razor's edge there, Andrew.

February 27, 2014  09:11 AM ET

How would Colts players receive him in their locker room? This is a player who will be viewed as having broken "the code". Unit, Corps, God, Country .......... oh, sorry ...... wrong code.

February 27, 2014  09:18 AM ET

And then he can get Harbaugh to come. It will be a nice Stanford reunion with Luck, Martin, Fleener and Harbaugh.

February 27, 2014  09:24 AM ET

Luck's pitch: Don't worry, Jonathan, if you sign with us, I won't let anybody call you any mean names or anything. If any of those big meanies hurt your feelings, they'll have to answer to me.

February 27, 2014  09:35 AM ET

Nothing more than an a QB asking for O line help....without asking for O-line help directly.

February 27, 2014  09:40 AM ET

I foresee a future for Martin as an author of pre-k childrens books.

February 27, 2014  09:41 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Not sure if the Colt's locker room has had their 'sensitivity' training yet.. They better get that taken care of before they hurt someones feelings..

Exactly! We dont want any hurt feelings. Forget about concussion effects years down the road or helping out the vets that helped build this league. Nobody uses the "N" word ( I cant believe I just wrote that) or say anything mean. Cuz that "S" word is top priority.

February 27, 2014  10:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I hope not. We've heard enough from Martin and the whole mess in general.

Martin 'came out' too?

February 27, 2014  10:12 AM ET

Not sure Luck wouldn't say that of any NFL player he's met and hung out with.

Martins a guard. Guards will never be glamarous or the best player on the O-line, but he did do some solid work considering he went up against some of the better D-Lines (division wise) in Buffalo, New England and Jacksonville prior to 2013 season. He can hold his own, guards only get one shot to prove they're ready to step up their game though and that's playoff time.

Martins finished his second season, going into his third. He can definitely improve and is young enough to do so. His contract rate is very low for what you'd typically get for a guard his level because of the harassment issues (Probably signs a 1 year prove it contract of 1M) can potentially be snagged for 5 years for 15M and if you treat him well he'd probably re-sign for a 'hometown discount'.
Teams with strong veteran leadership and stronger owners should be the ideal fit-Pittsburgh... I was planning on naming more but for some reason I honestly can't...off day probably, somebody help me out.
Colts would be the 'nice' pick here though. Buddy system, Lucks a good friend/leader and can act as your big buddy. Only problem is you're supposed to be his big buddy on the field.

February 27, 2014  10:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Exactly! We dont want any hurt feelings. Forget about concussion effects years down the road or helping out the vets that helped build this league. Nobody uses the "N" word ( I cant believe I just wrote that) or say anything mean. Cuz that "S" word is top priority.

It's important to note that Martin didn't come out with these details, the report did, and Martin didn't ask the NFL to look into it, he left and told management he was being harassed, it got leaked and then management turned to the NFL to make the report.
If you read the report that **** shouldn't 'fly' in any locker room. He may have broken a tradition but not before they broke it first. He even gave them the opportunity to change each time they met and still they persisted with it.
You want to talk about Men, maybe Martins not the most mature kid out on the block but he makes the rest of the Dolphins O-line look like inbreds.

February 27, 2014  10:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

It's important to note that Martin didn't come out with these details, the report did, and Martin didn't ask the NFL to look into it, he left and told management he was being harassed, it got leaked and then management turned to the NFL to make the report.If you read the report that **** shouldn't 'fly' in any locker room. He may have broken a tradition but not before they broke it first. He even gave them the opportunity to change each time they met and still they persisted with it. You want to talk about Men, maybe Martins not the most mature kid out on the block but he makes the rest of the Dolphins O-line look like inbreds.

Martin may not have done or said was particularly wrong, but that's not the issue. When he walks into the next locker room, will the other members of the o-line think of him as a snitch or cry-baby? Will they feel they have to walk around on eggshells for fear of hurting his feelings and have him leave the team / run to the front office? A successful and efective offensive line is probably one of th most cohsive units in all of sports - how they trust each other, communicate, and back each other up as a unit is often more important than the invidual skills of each member. Wherever Martin goes, he will have some work to do to earn that trust and shake his image/reputation, whether he deverves it or not.

February 27, 2014  10:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Martin may not have done or said was particularly wrong, but that's not the issue. When he walks into the next locker room, will the other members of the o-line think of him as a snitch or cry-baby? Will they feel they have to walk around on eggshells for fear of hurting his feelings and have him leave the team / run to the front office? Wherever Martin goes, he will have some work to do to earn that trust and shake his image/reputation, whether he deverves it or not.

I'm sure most NFL teams and players have read the publisized report by now.

They'll know exactly what it takes to push this guy over the edge and they'll concede that most of the teams in the NFL wouldn't go so far in their hazing.

Fact was Martin went through his first season and into his second season he was still being harassed and it was escalating. I don't see people minding if he's around, he's talented enough and young enough to shrug off any character deficiencies as youth and any playing ability as inexperience.

February 27, 2014  12:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

I'm sure most NFL teams and players have read the publisized report by now.They'll know exactly what it takes to push this guy over the edge and they'll concede that most of the teams in the NFL wouldn't go so far in their hazing.Fact was Martin went through his first season and into his second season he was still being harassed and it was escalating. I don't see people minding if he's around, he's talented enough and young enough to shrug off any character deficiencies as youth and any playing ability as inexperience.

another thing to worry about is what happens in the game itself. With the amount of trash-talking going on, if martin struggles in the field, will he break down when the DTs/LBs/etc start trashing-talking him about being, farily or unfairly, being a soft player mentally..

 
February 27, 2014  12:46 PM ET

Oh brother.

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