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I love Joe and I have defended him against people who say he needs to go. But like I said yesterday, losing recruits and games to Michigan and Ohio State every year is getting really tiring.

To take Pryor for example - he had wonderful things to say about Tressel & RichRod but he didn't say one word about JoePa. This is a problem!

Just because you build an organization, that doesn't give you the right to run it into the ground before you go. That goes for you too Bobby Bowden.

Penn State needs needs a boost.

I'm tired of plain vanilla play calling, not seeing star players until their senior year, average recruiting, and losing to Michigan and Ohio State. OSU recruits PA better than we do and this is an issue.

PS Forever. I understand your frustration as a fellow diehard PSU fan. But the problem with your theory is that everyone seems to forget that we are 29-9 the past three years with a 3-0 bowl record that included wins over the ACC champions FSU in 05, a very good SEC team, Tenn. in 06, and Tex. A&M this year. We have a better bowl record the past 3 years than OSU! Next year is the year. If JoePa wins the title then all these stories will go down the michigan crapper.

He will literally die on the sidelines. JoePa will be back.

He will literally die on the sidelines. JoePa will be back.

J. HOVA: THE ARCHBISHOP | 03/21/08, 09:09 AM

i agree. well hopefully he doesnt die there..

Me too. Just a figure of speech, I guess.

Again, Rutgers fans, make sure you follow all of this, so Schiano's announcement does not come as a shocker in December 2008.

Just because you build an organization, that doesn't give you the right to run it into the ground before you go. That goes for you too Bobby Bowden.

dabearessentials | 03/21/08, 08:50 AM

I wouldn't exactly say that PSU and FSU are being "run into the ground." Bill Callahan ran Nebraska into the ground. Charlie Weiss ran Notre Dame into the ground. Dennis Erickson ran Miami into the ground, and then Larry Coker did it again. Several coaches ran Alabama into the ground.

FSU and PSU will be fine with Bobby and JoePa, let the men go out on their own terms. It's the right thing to do.

For the good of PSU and the Big 10 Joe Pa needs to go. Tom Bradley will take care of the program just fine. And Pryor himself said Bradley was a great coach. This will end two ways; he'll die on the sideline or there will be some sort of scandal where he is perceived to be forced out of the job. Better sooner rather than later.

I agree with ' eyesWIDEOPEN '
let the man go out on his own terms. not only is it the right\
thing to do, but he"s certainly earned it.

buckeye for the sake of the Big 10, we have been a bright spot! PSU has been 3-0 in bowl games the past three years while the Buckeyes have been the blackeye going 1-2 and getting killed in consecutive title games! the buckeyes need to get THEIR act together for the sake of the big ten!

Its not that he's running them into the ground, its more like he's not getting them to level they once were consistantly...

The whole conference needs PSU to play well, they seem to get it together for the bowl games, but they need to take care of the reg. season schedule.

I think PSU was better before they became part of the big ten.

The old fott needs to retire. Paterno is hurting the program he created.

He made the program it is his program. Firing him would be like a kid killing his mom.

buckeye for the sake of the Big 10, we have been a bright spot! PSU has been 3-0 in bowl games the past three years while the Buckeyes have been the blackeye going 1-2 and getting killed in consecutive title games! the buckeyes need to get THEIR act together for the sake of the big ten! Anthony E.

OMG. I think OSU's bowl opponents have been A LITTLE BIT tougher than PSU's, Going 11-1 and 12-0 gets you into a different catagory bowl than 9-4 and 9-4.

JoePa will bully the administration like he is used to bullying them and everybody else....and get his way. It is Penn State.

If by some miracle...Spanier grows a backbone and tells JoePa otherwise...expect a reaction much like the game officials get after throwing a flag on the blue & white.

Who is this Joe Paterno everyone is talking about? Why don't they just put him on an iceberg and give him a shove?

The time has come to bow out. IF JoePa can see it, and that is a big IF. It's not that he is not still a good coach, and it is not that the team has been doing poorly, but the big problem is that he no longer connects with the kids he is trying to recruit. It's not just him, Galen Hall should hit the road as well. Bradley, Johnson and to some degree McQueary are able to relate to the kids a little bit better than JoePa and Hall. Pryor even stated that if Bradley was the coach, he would have signed at State months ago. To be out recruited by Pitt is a slap in the face. Not a knock on Pitt, but PSU has no reason for not bringing kids into Happy Valley. It may be rural, but on gameday, there is no better place to be*. (not looking to spark the SEC, ACC, PAC-10 are all better argument, everyone thinks their stadium is the best, let's leave it at that).