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Tops on the Phillies' agenda is finding another pitcher, either via a trade or by scouring the waiver wire. General manager Pat Gillick said Tuesday the Phillies likely will begin the season with 11 pitchers before activating closer Brad Lidge when he is eligible to come off the disabled list April 5. Reds veteran left-hander Mike Stanton or Rockies lefty Brian Fuentes may be available, but the price tag for Fuentes would figure to be high. The Phillies have also flirted previously with veteran lefty reliever Steve Kline, who is not assured of a job with the Giants. And San Francisco may be shopping for an infielder after utility man Kevin Frandsen ruptured his Achilles' tendon. Wes Helms, anyone? The Phillies continue to dangle Wes Helms, their expendable corner infielder, although there has not been much interest. If they can't trade him, they either will have to give him a roster spot or release him, leaving them to pay his $2.15 million salary and the $750,000 buyout on his 2009 contract option.

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March 28, 2008  07:25 AM ET

HAHAHA....."Wes Helms, their expendable corner infielder, although there has not been much interest."

Really? I can't believe that!

I'd keep him on the roster to clean the jock straps....maybe.

March 28, 2008  08:05 AM ET

Just release him already...it's under 3 mil to get rid of him. Do it.

March 28, 2008  08:18 AM ET

I would just release, but the Phillies are extremely cheap .. I mean, Ryan Howard wanted 10 mil & they went to arbitration w/ him, cuz they only wanted to pay him 7, that was ONLY 3 mil, but they didn't want to do it! And Hamels wanted $750 thousand & they only gave him $500 .. Idk, i guess it makes sense to underpay your good players ....................?

March 28, 2008  08:23 AM ET

I would just release, but the Phillies are extremely cheap .. I mean, Ryan Howard wanted 10 mil & they went to arbitration w/ him, cuz they only wanted to pay him 7, that was ONLY 3 mil, but they didn't want to do it! And Hamels wanted $750 thousand & they only gave him $500 .. Idk, i guess it makes sense to underpay your good players ....................?

GrlzPoop2 | 03/28/08, 08:18 AM
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I can understand it with Hamels. He is very injury prone and they don't want to pony up anything yet without seeing where is going to be this year. But Howard needs to get paid. We CANNOT let this man walk in 2011. That would be bad on so many levels. But sadly, I see that being the case.

March 28, 2008  08:33 AM ET

I'm sorry- is there a club not looking for pitching? This has to be one of the most redundant headlines I've read in awhile. That's like saying "the Tigers are looking for Relief help." Wow! Never knew that. I never would have thought Philly was looking for pitching until now... thank-you slow news day...

And the Mr. Obvious Award goes to... the Camden Courier Post?

March 28, 2008  08:47 AM ET

It's the Phils. We'll end up getting an injury prone washed up reliever because he's cheaper.
AFACT's pic is easily the best on fan nation

March 28, 2008  09:15 AM ET

Ha! Yeah- I hear that from time to time man.

March 28, 2008  09:50 AM ET

the phillies had a chance to improve their pitching staff by adding kyle lohse for 4 million dollars and deemed him to expensive, plus we have cy young hopeful kris benson, fresh off a year on the DL, waiting in the wings. The phillies ownership group is wealthier than the yanks or red sox's, but cheaper than the marlins.

March 28, 2008  09:51 AM ET

I've heard Byung Yung Kim is available. No "upside" but very cheap !!!

March 28, 2008  11:46 AM ET

They are going to need more pitching to be able to win the NL East division.

March 28, 2008  12:32 PM ET

the phillies had a chance to improve their pitching staff by adding kyle lohse for 4 million dollars and deemed him to expensive, plus we have cy young hopeful kris benson, fresh off a year on the DL, waiting in the wings. The phillies ownership group is wealthier than the yanks or red sox's, but cheaper than the marlins.

tom philly | 03/28/08, 09:50 AM
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It wasn't that we deemed him to expensive, we made an offer to him for 3 years and 21 mil. He turned it down. It's about the point he made saying he could get more elsewhere and it ended up costing him 17 Mil. It's a matter of principle.

March 28, 2008  12:50 PM ET

what team ISN'T interested in pitching?

March 28, 2008  12:51 PM ET

are you kidding me, phils been in the market for years, they know their picting is bad, look at this offense we have and still they wont put together a good rotation, philadelphia needs a true baseball owner someone who cares, im sick

March 28, 2008  03:28 PM ET

I've got a good trade for you. Utley for Fuentes. Otherwise, no deal. We're happy with what we have here in CO. Anyway, if you listen to that moron Tim Kurkjian, Philly is gonna win the World Series because, he says, they have the best lineup in the NL (which explains why they got pounded in the postseason last year), so why should they add anything?

March 28, 2008  04:26 PM ET

They do have the most "potent" lineup in the league....They have 20+ HR guys from leadoff up until the seven spot....Victorino and Ruiz/Coste being the exceptions....but if Werth and Jenkins pan out....they could contribute 20-30 HRs combined....This team will drive in runs....

Offense aside....can the pitching (outside Myers and Hamels) keep the ball in the park...?

March 28, 2008  04:34 PM ET

I'd take the Rox lineup against em. 20+ homers from 2-6 and Jayson Nix may contribute the same this year. Plus we have Ryan Spilborghs and Ian Stewart on the bench, and our pitching is better. The Phils are gonna be good again though, but I just don't think that they can matchup against the Mets this year, barring injuries.

March 28, 2008  09:05 PM ET

Like isn't everyone looking for pitching??? Come on we all know, and I've talked about this in other posts, PITCHING IS THIN, I'm not talking about hitting is better so pitching only appears to look worse. Every team needs the same number of pitchers as position players on their roster! Like say a 25 man roster: 11 to 13 are pitchers, same number for ALL position players. I remember Jose Canseco trying to pitch for a team in need, (California?) knuckel ball I think, through his arm out after one inning, what an arse...

March 29, 2008  02:11 PM ET

Phillies would be better off if they released Helms, and Eaton, but they won't because they are penny pinchers and always have been.

March 30, 2008  11:07 AM ET

Wow Tony from the city, you're "like an idiot". Who talks like that anymore; starting a sentence with like? And Canseco pitched in Texas by the way! Now go read a baseball almanac or before you come in here and try and sound like you know what you're talking about.

 
March 31, 2008  12:28 AM ET

Brlong23: Don't get facking tough with me you condescending little prick. What difference does it make which team he played for you facking dope. Your not LIKE an idiot you ARE a facking idiot. What's the 23 for, your age or your IQ? And by the way, no one uses WOW anymore, turn it upside down, and it spells MOM, apparently you never listened to her and consequently never learned manners, you mut.

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