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According to the Wall Street Journal, the Twins' Ron Gardenhire is the best manager in baseball. The publication used a formula based on managers' decision-making in close games, wins above expectations and if they got more out of their players than other managers did. Of the 20 managers ranked, Gardenhire was third in handling close games, fourth in wins above expectations and fifth in player performance. His average score of 4.00 was safely ahead of San Francisco's Bruce Bochy, who was second at 6.00. While the results are interesting (Atlanta's Bobby Cox and St. Louis' Tony La Russa were tied for ninth, for example) it raises the question of whether there's a way, beyond wins and losses, to evaluate the effect a manager has on a team.
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Does this mean they replayed all the games with actions different than the managers original actions? How else could you measure in game decision making?
CardsFan2
Saint Louis , MO
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Bobby Valentine all the way...no seriously what about Mike Scioscia?
Sacked91-PlaxisWax
New York , NY
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Ozzie Guillen once said, "Gardenhire is one of the most overlooked managers."
Ratchet
Iowa City , IA
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The Wall Street Journal. Who would have thought with all the sports magazines out there WSJ would be the publication to find a way to evaluate a manager's performance besides just wins and losses.
c note
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Honestly, it is a neat idea. A lot of companies today use what is called a balanced scorecard which looks at more than just financial results for the company to evaluate managment's performance. Perhaps baseball and sports in general need to look more at using strategic measures to measure the performance of their managers.
c note
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The Wall Street Journal. Who would have thought with all the sports magazines out there WSJ would be the publication to find a way to evaluate a manager's performance besides just wins and losses.
c note | 03/29/08, 11:12 AM
When the WSJ writes about sports, it's very interesting stuff.
Read my post this morning on NFL Truth & Rumors about the NFL's debt problem for a good example.
pwings
Cedar Rapids , IA
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I'm a homer and I admit it !!! Best manager - Terry Francona !!!
Mike C. 1927
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pwings - I never heard about this. Thanks for the info.
I'm pursuing my MBA degree right now.
c note
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I'm a Twins' fan, and that's riduculous...his in game management of pitchers is amongst the worst I've ever seen in 30+ years of watching basebll...and his irrational need to give one of the worst hitters in baseball (punto) over 500 plate appearances is ridiculous...
Jimmer69
Black Hawk , SD
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I meant ridiculous, not riduculous...
Jimmer69
Black Hawk , SD
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I'm a Twins fan and he's a good manager. I've never had any problems with his pitching changes, and I've thought he was right to do a lot of the pitching changes he's done. And he gave Punto over 500 AB's because the year before Punto hit close to .300 (so he knows Punto can do it), Punto's fielding ability is amazing, and there's no one else to replace him with! Who were we going to put at third? That Buscher kid? He's no where near the level of fielding the Twins would want for a sub .250 hitter. Gardenhire is a good manager.
Side note, a couple of years ago, Fortune called Kevin McHale the best manager in basketball (or something to that effect). I love the financial publications mixing it up with the sports world...
MNmojo
Saint Paul , MN
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whatever -- everyone has a theory, a system, and an opinion -- for myself, I like to see who actually plays/manages in the World Series
silverblack23
Dunsmuir , CA
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No offense at all to Gardenhire here, but I am never going to rely on a publication with the attitude and political flavor like the Wall Street Journal for my sports information and opinions. And by the way, silverblack23 makes a pretty good point above too. Duh...
EastCoastKeith
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I'd kill to have Punto on my team. Who needs A-Rod? Pssh
I agree with Mike Scioscia. Never gets enough credit.
Coletrain
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I'm a homer and I admit it !!! Best manager - Terry Francona !!!
kaycee | 03/29/08, 11:30 AM
Now kaycee that is ridiculous. You are being incredibly biased in this post and you ought to be ashamed of using this forum to air your one-way opinions about the Red Sox skipper. And I couldn't agree with you any more and think your post was right on the money. The hell with the rest of em.
nflyoubet
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'I'm a Twins fan and he's a good manager. I've never had any problems with his pitching changes'
Might want to pay closer attention...
Anyway, I didn't say he wasn't a good manager, I said to say he's the best is downright ridiculous...you don't give Punto 500+ ABs when he's stinking from beginning to end of the season just cause he had one season WAY over his head...
Gardy gives Punto a bunch of playing time cause he sees himself in Punto...same type of player....AAA talent...even after last year's disasterous season, he's already said we'll see a LOT of Punto this year as well...'cause he 'likes seeing Punto play'.
Jimmer69
Black Hawk , SD
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sorry, the quote was: 'I like to see him out on the field,'
Jimmer69
Black Hawk , SD
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pwings - I never heard about this. Thanks for the info.
I'm pursuing my MBA degree right now.
c note | 03/29/08, 11:34 AM
c note,
I can save you some money. Rather than getting your MBA, just remember:
Finance - Cash Flow, not Profit & Loss statement.
Investments - "Buy Low, Sell High."
Investments II - "The stock market is driven by two things; greed and fear."
pwings
Cedar Rapids , IA
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Punto pulled one season out of his ass, otherwise he's just an average player. Tom Kelly set everything up for Gardy, basically gave him the blueprint. I just don't like the way he uses so many pitchers, but he is still a pretty good manager.
KCMAC929
Minneapolis, MN
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No this rumor is like a crapola festival. Bobby Cox by far....he is the mother-ship of managers. All the other teams....except for Minnesota soend the dough on the juice freaks. Cox is number.....he has the resume.
Bond 007
San Francisco, Ca, FU
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