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The report certainly brought the problem to light. Maybe all who did it were not listed but a significant sample was. Now with a firm drug testing policy in place there will be no excuses. Punishment and removal will be in order.

wow you mean some people used an illegal substance by law, gets caught in a investigation, named in a report, and still recieve no punishment. Must be the ghost of Johnny Cocrhan working some post OJ magic. Way to show them Bud, do the crime and get no time. Nice you spineless jellyfish.

MLB is a JOKE. MLB stands for Major Lack of Balls. MLB has known for a VERY long time that juicing was a problem but just ignored it cuz it helped make baseball popular again. This was just a song and dance to make it look like they are trying to do something. Screw the waste of time on the roids and investigate why it costs a month wage to just get tickets and food for one game!

love the acronym.

seems like too many names were out of baseball to begin with. Tough to punish some and let some who are retired and some who still havent been caught get out of jail free. Plus if you punish those in the report how do you actually prove they are 100% guilty. All you have are some drug dealers accusations that those players used. You must have positive test or the union will have a fit.

MLB is a JOKE. MLB stands for Major Lack of Balls. MLB has known for a VERY long time that juicing was a problem but just ignored it cuz it helped make baseball popular again. This was just a song and dance to make it look like they are trying to do something. Screw the waste of time on the roids and investigate why it costs a month wage to just get tickets and food for one game!

The Warden | 04/11/08, 05:53 AM
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Amen brotha

Bud Selig is a ****!

I think that everyone should be suspended without pay.........just to be safe

This post should be fun today...

The Warden - I stand in line behind 700 Level Lifer and you on that one..

here is a good one.....bud is a dud

Whatever.... Let's all just brush this under the rug and maybe it will go away. sheeesh. not even a slap on the wrist? Maybe a letter of reprimand in their permanent filel?? yeah, right. So, once again the union protects the guilty and fail its total memebership. Gdamn it!
Here is the deal. From now unless MLB & the players union adopts something very similar to what I present here then this is all a joke.
Independent testing all year long. Blood testing, no peeing in a bottle. Add new testing as it becomes available. This is non-negotiable. First offense: One year. Second: Gone. No readdmision, ever. Sorry, but this is not a joke regarless what MLB & the union leadership thinks.
In addition all MLB clubs donate a minimum of one million dollars to a fund that sets up education on PEDs, mandatory for all MLB personnel... players, trainers, management, etc.... AND, then go out to the youth leagues and high schools etc.. and teach our children what is so very wrong and dangerous about using PEDs.

4192 - i like it, but we know something that harsh will never pass the players union. Until someone grows a unit in MLB we will continue to live in the cheating, hgh, steriod...etc age. Maybe we should just accept it.

And for anyone who cares this news item today:
"Cansecoparts ways with his lawyer" and this is what his former lawyer said:
" 'What's percolating is I don't represent him anymore. I terminated my relationship with him. Just moving on. It's a number of things. Irreconcilable differences, disagreement on some issues. I just don't need the hassle anymore.' "

Hmmmm.. .wonder if we have a case here of a lawyer who values his ability to practice law and doesn't want to jeopardize that ability defending someone who has cetain credibilty issues hanging over a a client. In plain English: Maybe the lawyer knows that Canseco is deliberatibng lying and does not want to get caught up in the cross hairs of the Feds sights on his now ex-cleint. Lawyers are duty bound as officers of the courts to report all illegal activity. Therefore, the less he knows the less he will need to report.

4192, I'd agree but think there should be financial punishment to the team of the player as well, in which that money would go to the fund also. These teams sould be looking for quality personalities, integrity, and honor. Hell, even the NBA is successfully cleaning up it's image and look how many thugs they had over the last ten or twelve years. It can be done. Or is honor too much to hope for? Build the brand people, and start by getting a NON TEAM OWNER in the position of commisioner!!

nflyoubety, good suggestion. add that to the list. :)

Bubble Scrub, unfortunately I think there will be a need to negotiate about what is to be done about the past. There is no real fair way to judge, it seems, because we will never know the whole truth. :( And I agree witch hunts are not the way to go. But, there should be some type of reckoning, however, for any factual evidence that links a player with PED use and there should be some type of action taken, even if it is just a two weeks suspension. Something. This carte blanche, laisse fairre attitude just will not do.

I'm so disgusted with all of this I really don't know what should be done anymore. It's kind of like our govt. We have one side complaining about the other and vice versa. They are all self interested, nothing is getting accomplished and the people suffering for it are the little people. Yet the machine is so big it is almost literally impossible to stop or contain anymore. In MLB it is the fans that are suffering. We have to deal and listen to this **** day after day and even now that the report has been filed, MLB is STILL not willing to go to the lengths is should to clean the problem up from this day forward. Union is protecting the players like a poorly contributing parent. Owners and Selig (dickweed) won't give up the control that they do have over all this because of the $$$ it brings in. And all of us are supposed to just deal with it and move on like it didn't happen?

JC, I agree with you but the sad part is, it will never happen. The Union would fight that tooth and nail. As for Canseco...at least his lawyer has a conscious. Or maybe just protecting his career. Either way he's better off walking away.

Maybe they should've made up their mind on the punishment before releasing the names. If you are not going to punish anyone then why publish names - I could never figure that out. They could've just used numbers and percentages to tell the story. Plus, we all know that there are many more users than the amount stated in the Mitchell Report.

Tribe, you may be right in your assessment in what will happen in the final analysis but to quote another idealistic soul: "I may be a dreamer..." I think we need to hope against hope that a miracle will happen. :(

I hear ya JC...keep up the good fight my man. I'll be there with ya, just some days I just look at the situation and decide I just can't think about it anymore because it is too frustrating.

Anyone named, who ADMITS they used- should be suspended.
If they deny it- no suspension.
THEN MOVE ON

Is it fair ?
yes

IF they cheated, want to get it off their chest, pay for their mistakes- good for them.
If they deny - don't mind lying to themselves & livng with their guilt- that's their perrogative.

Lets just stop whining about it