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When, not if, Mark Jackson arrives in New York, he won't have to worry about Isiah Thomas meddling with the players or making any surprise visits to the Knicks' training headquarters in Westchester. According to a team source, Thomas has been barred from having any contact with the team as part of his reassignment agreement with Knicks president Donnie Walsh. Such an agreement is critical for a new coach as he tries to reestablish a winning culture at Madison Square Garden and distance himself from the Thomas regime. Thomas is responsible for acquiring every player on the current roster and the fear is that if he were allowed to have any contact, including telephone calls, he could either willingly or unwillingly undermine the incoming coach.

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Isiah Thomas , AP Isiah Thomas , AP
April 22, 2008  05:33 AM ET

This is only two years too late.

April 22, 2008  05:43 AM ET

i saw isiah kiss magic johnson once when they were players

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April 22, 2008  08:24 AM ET

Is this practice - barring ex-coaches from player contact - something that's practiced throughout the NBA?
Or, is it one of the bizarre rituals of the Knicks, like their media policy and their connections to the mob (through Dolan)?
If it's something peculiar to the Knicks, then it shows that the Knicks truly are a paranoid and strange franchise. Maybe Isiah can sue the Knicks for violating his civil rights (ie to contact players). However, given the fact that he's still on the payroll for millions of dollars, he definitely won't do that.
- JL

April 22, 2008  08:31 AM ET

I'm sure the players don't want to talk to him either considering how many incidents have happened between him and the other players. Hopefully Walsh can make some good changes. He needs to look at getting rid of Starburst next. I'm still not feeling Mark Jackson as the next coach though - no coaching experience, right? I don't know if this is a good decision. George Karl may be available soon, Walsh should get in touch with him.

April 22, 2008  08:38 AM ET

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April 22, 2008  08:42 AM ET

I have no doubt in my mind Walsh will turn this franchise around. He is doing everything right. I am not even a NY Knick fan and I do want to see them turn the franchise around. Of course, there really is nowhere to go but up.

April 22, 2008  08:46 AM ET

The love affair with Isiah continues. How long are we going to talk about this guy?For you that think I am an Isiah supporter, that is fine. I said it before. I want the Knicks back. Basketball is about winning and losing. Isiah was able to do some go thing, if you are fair, but the changes did not come fast enough. But here are facts.

Average age of the Knicks before Isiah 32 after Isiah 25
Young talent Before Isiah "Sweetney" after Isiah "Lee Nate Balkman Chandler Collins"
Salary cap Before 125 million after 88 Million, and will be under the cap next year

Bad contract James and Jefferies was over paid. Curry bad deal.
Q was the deal that got the Knick LEE good deal.
Zach is a 20 and 10 guy and got rid of Larry brown Francis and soft Frye! Go deal!

NY is a place where there is no rebuilding, this is not my rule. Donny comes into a situation where the rebuilding has started and he gets a pass for the next 2 years. This is time for him to complete getting under the cap.

The Knick have talent, but they are all singular, they did not play as a team. The coach needs to be a veteran coach.

Media, he's gone.

For the record I do not want MJ as coach. GO Knicks

April 22, 2008  08:53 AM ET

Smile

I am taking classes to improve my basketball IQ!!!

April 22, 2008  08:54 AM ET

Too little too late. They should have done this years ago. Still, it doesn't matter. Walsh appears to be keeping the core of this team intact. No coach is going to be successful here. They won't be much better than they've been the last couple of years. It will be years before the Knicks are able to "re-establish a winning culture." Ironically, Isiah can completely decimate this team, disappear into the shadows, and collect $18 million. Nice work if you can get it.

April 22, 2008  08:57 AM ET

Isiah was a smarmy, racist little twerp as a player. As a coach he was a sexist, snotty moron who had no coaching skills at all. He is as reprehensible a person as there is. He is exactly the kind of stupid and selfish idiot that a successful team should keep as far away from it's locker room as possible

April 22, 2008  09:04 AM ET

Liontut

Please don't come back with that outhouse logic of youirs. The Knicks are worse off than they were when this knucklehead took over. Those players were able to be traded. Some were able to become contributors elsewhere. Nobody wants the garbage they have now, so the Knicks are stuck with having to buy out these contracts, or wait for them to expire. It will be years before this team can become respectable. Relevant is just a dream at this point.

April 22, 2008  09:06 AM ET

I do agree with some of what you said Lion-
HOWEVER

swirling at the bottom of mediocrity for the last 4 years is not acceptable.
In the NBA- you should be able to turn around a franchise within 2-3 years

It's taken way too long-

Isiah's big problem is that he kept trying to acquire 'talent' & youth-
- which in itself is great- but giving them & accepting MAJOR large coutracts & years is where he erred. We didn't need Francis AND Rosse.
we don't need curry AND Randolph.

Bottom line is he did not do an acceptable job-
therefore, he deserved his fate

April 22, 2008  09:20 AM ET

So if he can't be around the Knicks, what exactly is he going to be doing?

April 22, 2008  09:30 AM ET

jgb | 04/22/08, 09:06 AM

We don't disagree. The NBA is about winning.

However, you can only turn a team around "in 2 years" if you are lucky. Name the other team that did it in 2 years.

You can make it to the playoff with talent. You can only win with stars. Name the team minus Detroit that is in the playoff without a star.

You get stars by drafting or trading. When Isiah got here there was nothing to trade. He also did not have a first round pick the first year. Today the Knicks have some players with value.

April 22, 2008  09:33 AM ET

Zeke,

Great player, very, very bad coach. BTW: The Knicks don't have a ton of talent. Maybe they will play hard for the other coach and get a few more wins.

April 22, 2008  09:36 AM ET

I mean seriously, would you want this guy around your franchise after you just fired him as your coach? He's going to stay away from the Knicks and do anything he wants to do. I believe he will be "working" from home.

April 22, 2008  09:37 AM ET

The Knicks have about 4 or 6 player with some value.

4 years ago the Knicks did not have even 1 paly! that is a fact. Remember Houston was hurt!

April 22, 2008  09:38 AM ET

Liontut

You keep bringing up that word. "Talent" Where is it? There are 7 players on this team that should be in the D League.

 
April 22, 2008  09:43 AM ET

"The Knicks have about 4 or 6 player with some value."

Who?

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