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I beg to differ, while they lost a player who had alot of talent they avoided having a low life, poor attitude problem to deal with, You would have had a player who is really good, and equally as good at throwing old men to the ground and acting like a tough guy at 156 lbs. Making the trade has its positives and negatives.

You forgot "avid cockfight enthusiast", Whalers

Regardless of what you think of Pedro's attitude, they traded a guy that would win 2 Cy Young awards and have the highest winning percentage in the game for Delino DeSheilds. You can argue that they should have traded him, but you cant argue that they received a fair return

No positives for the Dodgers in this deal. REally don't see how Pedro has been a problem. Maybe he goes inside a lot but thats not exactly a bad thing.

The Dodgers were right about his "long-term durability."

Everything else, not so much....

Mr. Whalers: Are you suggesting that a little 156-pound guy should not defend himself when violently attacked by a senile, portly wild man?

Mr. Whalers: Are you suggesting that a little 156-pound guy should not defend himself when violently attacked by a senile, portly wild man? Brad

He is entitled to defense but he was using offense as his defense. Even further 156lb guys should not be throwing at the heads of batters. Then he could have avoided the whole 72 year old threat.

So easy for you to criticize Ross, this is a very good example of: "it's always better to review then to do."

It is a horrible trade. You don't just trade an extremely talented player with that much potential just because to you, he has an "attitude".

Mr. Whalers: Are you suggesting that a little 156-pound guy should not defend himself when violently attacked by a senile, portly wild man? Brad

He is entitled to defense but he was using offense as his defense. Even further 156lb guys should not be throwing at the heads of batters. Then he could have avoided the whole 72 year old threat.
Whalers | 04/22/08, 08:32 AM
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who the hell cares hiow much he weighs when he throws at batters? If he can (could) throw 97, he knows what he has in his arsenal, and he obviously isn't worried about repercussions. There sin't a weight restriction on pitchers who want to throw inside

You know he would throw but not be able to stand up for it unless the guy coming at him was 72

Nomarfan/whales: many throw inside, but he threw at batters, (hit two yankee batters the game or so before) at least in the american league, Which is OK, but when the benches clear because of his ****, he usually is down the run way, hiding out. accept for this time which is when he threw the old man down. I don't know his Hit batters stats since he is in the NL, but I'm sure it's down. He himself now has to have AB's.

Dude, he threw a near perfect game after he beaned a guy. I wouldn't down his bada/ssery.

And I say, good for any pitcher who throws inside. They need to show they own the plate. More pitchers should do that.

*doubt

As a lifelong Sox fan, there was nothing greater than watching Pedro Martinez pitch at the turn of the century. More often than not, he was masterful, baffling hitters and driving Fenway into a frenzy. On every two strike pitch, the fans would get up and chant "Pedro, Pedro," and when he would deliver that 3rd strike, the place would go nuts. Absolute electricity. I miss those days.....

The Dodgers were right about his "long-term durability."
Brad Wesley | 04/22/08, 08:21 AM

Yeah, if they had signed him to a 13 year deal, they would have been screwed

I remember the summer of 1999, and I was spending the night with my grandmother watching the Sox-Yankees game on her tiny television. Jeter, O'neill, Posada, etc all went down swinging. Pedro had 17 strikeouts that night, and my grandma had to tell me to keep it down more than once, as I am shouting at the TV, whooping it up. Great memory. All around the city that next day it was "Dude, did you see Pedro last night?" His icy glare was plastered all over the front pages of the Boston Globe. #45 jerseys were everywhere in those days. A pitcher that dominating doesn't come around very often.