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You gotta love him. Make this guy our leader.

Insane Hussein | 05/11/08, 09:31 AM

this is where the concerns should be addressed. if something is wrong with the current system, fix it.

pw | 05/11/08, 09:40 AM

You gotta love him. Make this guy our leader.

Outofshapeandinjured!

Huh? I thought the US was out to rid the world of this kind of guy. Saddam Hussein was effective in his role, too, you know.

George W. Watson | 05/11/08, 11:29 AM

I agree, George W. Watson. But Bill isn't that bad for his surveillance sins. Um, if you take the bad guys of "Pirates of the Carribean" and add the cruelty of the kidnapping, murdering jerk in "Silence of the Lambs" and put some Kamikaze pilots who can't fly so they use cars and belts or fools as weapons in support of them, you have the cast of some of our enemies. Then you move them to an area with billions of barrels of a commodity that can put us in a world wide depression right under their feet.

Insane Hussein | 05/11/08, 01:01 PM

suspend the cheater!!!!!!

johnnytostito | 05/11/08, 03:31 PM

this whole thing is really really stupid. there are so many bigger issues. get of the man's back for goodness sake. he lost a draft pick. people are just upset because he didn't get away with it. there are so many football teams that wish they could have the success the pats have had. nobody would be saying anything if the patriots consistently finished in last place.

soxwin07 | 05/11/08, 03:49 PM

New England is dirty. They've been dirty for years. It amazes me that they aren't on a college level post season probation.

smoss | 05/11/08, 06:14 PM

This is just sick how a coach and an organization can blatantly disregard the rules and the spirit of the game. Trying to win is one thing, but going to the depths that they have has certainly tarnished what they have accomplished. Just like Barry Bonds, they won't like the fact that they are considered to have cheaten, despite what they may think.

Hillary Clinton | 05/11/08, 06:52 PM

All you haters keep it up we love it! and this is just more typical NY times trash blah blah blah
All of your teams are just as bad and have yet to be caught so GFY

PatriotsPlace | 05/11/08, 08:11 PM

Honestly I have lost some respect for thie Patriots; I still hate them, but not with respect.

Jabril1217 | 05/11/08, 10:45 PM

Jabril, there was no reason to lose respect for the Patriots.

STP43FAN | 05/12/08, 01:00 AM

Hillary Milhous Clinton, where did the Patriots somehow violate "the rules and the spiit of the game? Videotaping from the sidelines does neither.

STP43FAN | 05/12/08, 01:01 AM

Then why the fines and loss of draft pick?

Hillary Clinton | 05/12/08, 01:51 AM

Well now ALL the other "cheating" teams are on the same level. Parity - Pete Rozelle's master plan !!!

Kaycee3 | 05/12/08, 03:36 AM

I agree, George W. Watson. But Bill isn't that bad for his surveillance sins. Um, if you take the bad guys of "Pirates of the Carribean" and add the cruelty of the kidnapping, murdering jerk in "Silence of the Lambs" and put some Kamikaze pilots who can't fly so they use cars and belts or fools as weapons in support of them, you have the cast of some of our enemies. Then you move them to an area with billions of barrels of a commodity that can put us in a world wide depression right under their feet.

Outofshapeandinjured! |

I think the common denominator is unscrupulousness. The last time we had a President of Bill's apparent ilk he was called Nixon. (Nero in Washington is to f***ing stupid to qualify.)

George W. Watson | 05/12/08, 10:16 AM

That's fair...make rules to prevent every other team from doing this, but don't stop the Patriots

spaul | 05/12/08, 12:21 PM

Nope. I read that same NY Times article, and it also reported that many teams were the subject of accusations by many teams, and this is just the culture of the NFL.

Clearly, whoever runs this Truth & Rumors piece of SI.com also runs the blogs that daily report on how the DC Madam did not commit suicide and that Hillary Clinton can still win the nomination by changing the criteria to popular vote and by trying to seat MI and FL according to the results of the sham primaries.

BLUESILVER | 05/12/08, 01:11 PM

I'm not sure which comments are dumber. Comparing Bill Clinton to Richard Nixon is right up there with some of the all time dumbest things I ever heard. If you consider the run away gas prices and the state of the economy, the similarities between the Iraq and Viet Nam, the lies and the blatant disregard to basic civil rights, I'd say that George W. Bush is even worse than Nixon. However, living in Washington I've learned that it's mean to confuse a Republican with the facts, and I've seen George W. Watson's head blow up in these blogs if you give him too much information.

This NYT article was pretty dumb in that it suggests that New England has been the primary focus of violations and resulting rule changes by the NFL since Belichick became coach, but the only examples they give are the ones related to Spygate, which have only occurred in the past few months. However, these authors can be forgiven since their only embellishing their story. Another Patriot hating article written by Harvey Araton and published the same day in the NYT is where the real lies are. In "A Decade of Sins Deserves a Year Out," Araton suggests that the Walsh tapes provide new information about how long the taping had been going on. He even quotes one sports "ethicist" who paraphrases Belichick as having said, "We only did it this one time." LIes! Belichick admitted to taping since he became a head coach. He also admitted to taping both defensive AND offensive signals. He has, in fact, been fined for all of this already. I'm sure the New York sports writers would love to send the military into Gillette Stadium and kill everyone there, too. The problem is that the lie about having Weapons of Mass Destruction has already been used.

PTSDYNTSY | 05/12/08, 03:47 PM

Yo Patriots place...these people obviously struck a nerve with you....what do you do when someone flisp you off in the car...pull out a gun? I'm sure you been doin your share of smack talkin...I just hopeyou don't get high-blood pressure.

HumptyRavensfan | 05/12/08, 05:46 PM

Tomorrow should be an informative day as the Commish meets with Walsh. Should new information come to light I would expect Belichick becomes a word that will be forbidden in the NE area.

Rightfully so I might add!

Boots

5346 | 05/12/08, 05:59 PM