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Washington coach Tyrone Willingham said he believes there's still a "good ol' boy network" that keeps minorities from getting head coaching jobs in college football. "No question," Willingham said. "You've got to explain the numbers. There's more than one answer. But it's alive and well in certain places, yes." Minority hiring practices and the possible implementation of a playoff system were two hot-button topics discussed Friday morning at a college football forum organized by the National Football Foundation. Coaches and college administrators batted around the idea of whether colleges could implement something akin to the NFL's Rooney Rule, whereby schools would be required to interview a minority applicant for any head coaching vacancy.

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Tyrone Willingham, Otto Greule Jr./Getty Images Tyrone Willingham, Otto Greule Jr./Getty Images
May 17, 2008  10:17 AM ET

Just another idiot playing the race card.

May 17, 2008  11:21 AM ET

More likely his sub .500 coaching record a poor recruiting is what is holding him back.

May 17, 2008  11:31 AM ET

At one time that might have been the case but today I'd have to think that blacks not getting college HC jobs is not quite as simple as the Ol' Boys Network as Tyrone points out. Now, as Ty said it's in place in certain places and I can believe that. Are there other black assistant coaches are complaining they are not being given the chance? I'd also love to hear what other "factors" Tyrone thinks are the problem. One thing is for sure, Tyrone can never blame the ol boy's network for his dismal coaching.

May 17, 2008  11:45 AM ET

When he is fired at Washington will there be the same "racism" accusations that there were at Notre Dame...?

May 17, 2008  12:44 PM ET

this is so true. Why all the black college players and only about a handful of black college coaches. Same thing with women's basketball`

May 17, 2008  12:46 PM ET

There is a good ol boy system. Hands down one of the most raciest leagues in all of sports.

May 17, 2008  01:11 PM ET

Name 3 deserving Black coaches who didn't get a job for which they should have been hired. Vast White Conspiracy doesn't work any more.

localboy54 | 05/17/08, 12:53 PM

I dont know, theres no black coachs that have been given a chanch

May 17, 2008  01:15 PM ET

When will the blacks stand on their own feet and stop blameing whitey. When will you stop looking at skin color and at the person.

May 17, 2008  01:21 PM ET

Never Thunderdragon .. never.

May 17, 2008  01:26 PM ET

When are we going to get beyond this "$hi7"? No, there is no better word for it. As a black man, I've always felt that if I take a job (any job) and I perform well, then that may open up an opportunity for some other "minority" regardless of the prevalent circumstances. In this, I do more for equal opportunity than any mandate. Of course there are always going to be cases where it doesn't matter how good you are, people just aren't going to want to have you around. I for one will not give another person the responsibility for my failure unless the evidence is conclusive and verifiable. Anything outside of this is going to be viewed as conjecture whether it's true or not. My point is, all of this race baiting in our country is stupid and it's time we all start looking past it. As it was once said, "You can't hold me down on the bottom of the barrel unless you're willing to stay down there with me". Literally or figuratively.

'Nuff said.

May 17, 2008  01:34 PM ET

There still is a Good ol' boy network & there always will be. "They're good enough to play, but not good enough to coach." There will always be some fool like the one in WV when they asked him about Obama, that's too dumb or lazy to find out information on his own. My attitude is, let the good 'ol boys keep their teams, just be man or woman enough to say it. Then they'll see as players of all colors refuse to play for their universities. Stop being cowards & admit it aloud. There are plenty of exceptional coaches at HBCUs that aren't even contacted for D1 coaching positions.

May 17, 2008  01:57 PM ET

"Racisim exists. But it isn't just coming from White America."
localboy54, it's not possible to consider this statement with any merit when the fact is that the majority (whites) in America who benefit from systematic racism designed in America long ago, cannot be victims of racism. The majority is the beneficiary of the racism - not the victims of it. That is why only the minorities in America can be the victims of racism. This is a truth that is very very hard for some in White America to accept and I'll likely be lambasted here for saying. But it is the truth. Of course, whites can be victims of hatred, and/or ignorance coming from anyone - but cannot be not victims of racism. One of the dumbest terms invented by White America, "reverse racism" still has many of us fooled.

With that said, I agree with every word Willingham said. By the way, I think at least some here would agree this country has been run by the same type of network for the last seven years and change - but that's a whole 'nother deal.

May 17, 2008  02:57 PM ET

There CERTAINLY IS agood ol' boy system at work in U.S. college football.
Why has only Mississippi State's Sylvester Croom coached a major white
Southern school's football team?Explain that one,boys.

May 17, 2008  03:10 PM ET

I think Willingham's right that there is an "old boy" network, but I think that it goes beyond being race-based, actually. The nature of it does exclude minorities (I mean, how the hell has Norm Chow not gotten a head coaching gig, for that matter?), but what happens is that I think the same old retreads keep get putting into place. AD's would rather hire someone who's been a head coach before than take a chance of going outside that network.

May 17, 2008  03:13 PM ET

Alumni rule college sports. Rich white guys, get it ?

May 17, 2008  03:42 PM ET

Current Head Coaches

Sylvester Croom - Miss ST - 4 yrs - W/L 17-30
Turner Gill - Buffalo - 2 yrs - W/L 7-17
Ron Prince - K ST - 2 yrs - W/L 12-13
Randy Shannon - Miami - 1 yr - W/L 5-7
Tyrone Willingham - Wash - 3 yrs W/L 11-25 (overall 76-76-1)

Yeah, I can see the racist conspiracy now. Thanks for pointing it out.

May 17, 2008  03:43 PM ET

localboy54

* 94.2 percent of college and university presidents are white;

* 92.7 percent of faculty athletic representatives are white;

* 87.3 percent of football offensive and defensive coordinators are white;

* and that 85.8 percent of athletic directors are white.

* Fifty percent black athletes leads to 25 percent black assistant coaches leads to 3 percent black head coaches.

* Fifty percent white athletes leads to 75 percent white assistant coaches leads to 97 percent white head coaches.

The good ol' boy and "white privilege" philosophy is so embedded in your lifestyle that you don't even see an issue with your own comments...What don't you understand? People hire who they are comfortable with...And thats just the way ol' boy system is set up...Numbers don't lie...They don't...At all...

Its good to see guys like Mario Cristobal and Randy Shannon get shots at D-1 college programs...But for you to sit here and tell me that there are only 7 minority coaches in the country with the capability to run D-1 Programs?

And you want me to name you 3? I can give you a list of 10....

May 17, 2008  03:43 PM ET

I'm a good ol boy - I don't have to explain anything.

May 17, 2008  03:59 PM ET

And speaking of HBCUs....

Have you ever heard of Chuck Bell...Now the Athletic Director at Delaware State...A white man...You might remember him as the Athletic Director at San Jose State...A man that was FORCED out of San Jose, for a hire...It was of an up and coming black coach named, Dr. Fitz Hill...The same Fitz Hill that was should of got the University of Arkansas job...He was seen as one of the best assistant coaches in the country...He was the main reason that Arkansas was able to compete in the 90s...But he got taken by the good ol' boy system...And they gave the position to a coach that has ties with the front office...And somebody that Frank Broyles felt comfortable with...Houston Nutt...

I'm just saying...

 
May 17, 2008  04:07 PM ET

localboy54

Charlie Stron...

Tyrone Nix...

Ron Prince...

Fred Jackson...

Vance Bedford...

Marvin Sanders...

John Eason...

Norries Wilson...

Mike Locksley...

Michael Haywood...

Joker Phillips...

Trooper Taylor...

Reggie Mitchell,...

David Kelly...

Calvin Magee...

Now...You go do your research...

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