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Writers are doing them a favor by not declaring them the favorites. The games are all that count. It makes what the Patriots have done this decade even more impressive. And that is coming from a Giants fan..

I agree with you 50yearfan. The Giants got hot at the right time and went on one h3ll of a run. I like the fact that we are not expected to win it all. It's very rare anyway that the team picked to win it all does, so just go out and play and see what happens.

I think respect MIGHT come when they are consistently good,not lucky.Yes they won the superbowl but does anybody think they have chance to even get out of the wildcard round?This year instead of the AFC east they play the AFC North so I would hope Giant fan is happy with 8-8 at best.Sat what you want about Eli M,but when Kyle Boller,Brian Griese,Jon Kitna and Joey Harrington have a higher QB rating you can't count on him winning big games.(If Tyree doesn't make that insane catch,or Asante S. catch what was thrown right at him and ending the game like Neil O'Donnell then you would say "exactly".)They took advantage of their opportunity,but that doesn't garner respect as much as getting back to the playoffs and they are in a lousy conference so 8-8 might just do it.

Also,you might as well trade Burress now.He thinks he needs to be paid more than 3million and he already got a ring.Doesn't matter what you pay him,$20,or 20 million,he is going to mail in the season.There are some stud WR's in college,take a shot and trade him.(Philthadelphia maybe?)

Yes, it was very impressive what the Patriots were able to do. I give them all the accolades they deserve, but make no mistake, the GIANTS are the superbowl defending champions. They certainly got hot at the right time, with all cylinders going at the same time. Usually isn't this the way teams win championships? They have not gotten the respect they deserve, as the defending champions. Yes the 18 and 1 year was very impressive, but just like the defending BoSox champions in baseball, the defending champions in football will continue to be the GIANTS. That's the way it has always been. Bagging rights go their way until dethroned.

They got hot and everyone knows it. if that Super bowl was played 10 times I think they would lose 9 of them. With that said they did come through when it matters and most don't expect the same type of performance from them again this year. if I recall the Giants have not even made the playoff after going to the Superbowl.

ya got to walk before you can run. Only time will tell if they can continue to defend.

we will see if Eli regresses or continues his developement and takes the next step and is compared to his brother and that guy in new england. I hear he is pretty good.

captcruzan...QB ratings are the most misleading stat in football. They tell you everything but what is important. Here is the stat that means the most, and they do not even calculate it in to the number. Fourth quarter efficiency. Try this one on, it is the only one I need to know about a QB.
Eli Manning.... Twenty five of his 77 touchdown passes (32.5 percent) were in the 4th quarter or overtime....
Do not tell me what a player did, tell me when he did it....

captcruzan...Consider this QB rating....Joe Montana ( IMO is the most effective QB to ever play the game)..One time in a 13 year career he passed for over 30 TDs (31), In 9 of his 13 seasons his rating was in the 80s ( often the low 80 to 83 range). But I know this, he knew how to finish a game.

Agree 50 year fan............

Its a new season, shldnt be worried about "respect", be worried about playing football........

I'm not sure I agree with much of anything captcruzan had to say but I really don't think the stat that 50yearfan has provided here is anything to knock my socks off and say Eli Manning is an elite QB. Eli definitely played like an elite Qb for the last 5 games of the season but a career comes over an entire body of work. Perhaps Eli has gotten over the hump and will be a top tier Qb well into the next decade. It's entirely possible. However, I'll take a wait and see attitude because if you take away his last 5 games and look at his entire body of work he has played average at best football.

Sure they weren't that good during the season last year, but they beat 3 great teams in a row during the postseason and they're the superbowl champs. They have absolutely no reason not to be respected, whatever I guess all the dissing will give them a chip on their shoulders. I want to see this year superbowl matchup be giants vs. colts. Go Colts!!!

73.4 Career QB rating for Eli
92.3 Career QB raiting for Montana

Let's not get carried away with these comparisons. The only QB who deserves to be mentioned in the same breath with Joe Montana right now is Tom Brady.

Let the Giants stay under the radar. Last year was the first time in a long time that the Giants actually beat the teams that they were supposed to beat. This team has not come close to playing up to their full potential as an offense. It's scary how good they could be. As far as respect, I think the league is still in shock over the upset.

I'm a Patriots fan, and what they've done for the last eight years or so is impressive. And I wish they'd finished off the 19-0, but...

Give the Giants their due. They won the game. They're Super Bowl champs. And everybody looks at them as a fluke.

If the Giants want the respect, then go out and look this year like the same team that plowed through the Cowboys, Packers and Patriots last winter.

Footmodel.. I agree with what you said. He is not an elite QB now, but he is no Boller ar Harrington either....Joe Montana stat is correct for career, but for 9 of those 13 years he finished with a rating in the 80s, mostly at the beginning of his career, and of course that last cruel year in KC.

Eli, Buress, and that defensive line deserve all the credit in the world!!!! They played the entire playoff on the road, made BRETT FAVRE look like a washed up old man,and slayed the mighty patriots!!!! Yes they deserve RESPECT!!