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"requiring all engines with a cylinder bore spacing more than 4.470 inches to use tapered spacers with smaller holes"
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Why did they have to go to three decimal places on the cylinder bore spacing? Wouldn't 4.47 be exactly the same thing?

YODA | 07/24/08, 08:21 AM

Yes. I am THAT bored. I'm stuck at work at 5 a.m. (west coast) 'cause the d0uchewad that was supposed to take over at 2 called in 'sick' at 1:45 a.m.

YODA | 07/24/08, 08:24 AM

While I don't like the Toyos in NASCAR, if they're doing something right, why should they be penalized? I thought your supposed to get a competitive advantage.

Turfman | 07/24/08, 08:38 AM

I'm with Turfman on this one. NASCAR is stifling innovation...again. Rather than force Toyotas to adhere to the lowest common denominator, this ought to encourage the other three manufacturers to step it up with their own engine programs.

nin_man | 07/24/08, 08:43 AM

Agreed nin, it is way too late in the season to be asking Toyo to slow down, they should be really encouraging the the teams to get more HP out of their engines. Nascar is so stupid.

nascarzorin | 07/24/08, 09:14 AM

Let Toyota finish the season,it isn't going to make
that much difference anyway.Good ol Nascar,
leave it up to those Jug heads to screw up things.

JetJocky | 07/24/08, 09:22 AM

Turfman & nin_man... They made the COT and have rules and regulations for a reason. They want the drivers to beat each other not the equipment. At this point in time, Toyota was permitted to put their new engine into races ahead of everyone else. Being allowed to enter their new engine ahead of everyone else was a HUGE advantage. Kyle has won 7 races and is in the lead of the Cup series by something like 200 pts. Now you see this as innovation while others see it as a form of allowable cheating. I see it as being unfair. If I have an engine and you have an engine and both do the same things, why can't we both run our engines and see who the better driver is.

You know it's funny though, NASCAR has rules and templates in place for the shape of the car, weight of the car, the cooling systems, the water bottle systems, but not for the engines. You can change the engine anyways you want but if you reshape your nose or use a wrong bolt you are fined $100,000, your lose 100pts, your crew chief is suspended for 6 weeks and fined money, and the owner loses owner pts.

I actually for the first time in a long time have to side with NASCAR on this one. They are leveling the playing field. Now if they carry this over to the cup series it would be even more impressive.

ButtMan | 07/24/08, 09:24 AM

Oh and for those of you saying NASCAR is stupid. You are right. This should not have been allowed from the start of the season but it didn't come to light until a few weeks ago when The Scene published it. That's when pressure started being put on NASCAR and they realized that the extra 15 horsepower obviously makes a huge **** difference. Kyle's won 7 races. Damn, he was in 36th in one race with 15 laps to go and ended up winning. You telling me that horsepower has nothing to do with it. get real people.

ButtMan | 07/24/08, 09:27 AM

NASCARS attempt to let JR win a championship... If he ran for toyota and had a huge lead nothing would be said.

scottc1010 | 07/24/08, 09:32 AM

Dude the article is about the Nationwide Series not Cup, although Kyle has won a lot of races in both series. What Nascar should have done is not allowed Toyo to run the same engines in Nationwide as they do in the Cup that would have made thing much simpler. But I guess better late than never.

nascarzorin | 07/24/08, 09:32 AM

Thank You ,Buttman,

JetJocky | 07/24/08, 09:33 AM

scottc1010, Little boys should learn to read and understand Nascar
before making Moronic comments.

JetJocky | 07/24/08, 09:36 AM

we will see how long before nascar starts deviating in the cup as well

scottc1010 | 07/24/08, 09:38 AM

Couldnt have said it better Buttman

BUCKGUY | 07/24/08, 09:40 AM

I have to agree with the BUTT let them all race their new engines. Why givea competitive advantage to one car maker. But Butt we have been talking about this here most of the year so far. And it does put a concieved notion in peoples heads that toyo is better than the other manufacturers because they are winning. I guess with all the sponsorship toyo put into nascar they expected preferencial treatment and got it. All get the new engine or none do!

joefordnproud | 07/24/08, 09:43 AM

Joe you are right, but at the same time if NASCAR has allowed it this long into the season why change it now??? Why not wait untill after the season and make the change?

scottc1010 | 07/24/08, 09:45 AM

Now we will see if it was the driver or the car.
I expect kyle to win at least 3 more races this year at nationwide.

Don't shave the Busch | 07/24/08, 09:53 AM

Lover of a hairy Busch. If Kyle does win 3 more races at Nationwide then, I will be the first to say he's the Man.

Asbel | 07/24/08, 09:56 AM

Why not make Ford, Dodge, and Chevy re-engineer their engines up to the toyotas Specs of a cylinder bore spacing more than 4.470 inches??? This is unfair by NASCAR.

AFScott | 07/24/08, 10:01 AM

Kyle deserves much more credit than he has gotten though, he squeezes all of the HP out of those Toyo engines with his setups at least at the cup level, something Tony and Denny has not quite done. All the top guys in Cup have been very competitive with their old engines but at the Nationwide level its been a great disparity.

nascarzorin | 07/24/08, 10:10 AM