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Last season, when the NHL rolled out new Reebok uniforms, the "upgrade" flopped. They were too tight. They ripped. Sweat rolled off the jerseys and drained into gloves and skates. This year, the NHL is hoping the next round of equipment tweaks will be more successful. On June 11, the Goalie Equipment Working Group - general managers Doug Risebrough (Minnesota), Garth Snow (Islanders), Jim Rutherford (Carolina), and Brett Hull (Dallas); goalies Martin Brodeur (New Jersey), Rick DiPietro (Islanders), and Ryan Miller (Buffalo); and skaters Dany Heatley (Ottawa) and Mike Cammalleri (then Los Angeles, now Calgary) - convened in Toronto to address what could be done to shrink goaltenders, without resorting to hunger strikes. The result? Knee pads and clavicle protectors will be trimmed for the 2008-09 season. Because most goalies play the butterfly style, shooters would see the following: a netminder standing tall with his legs spread, inviting them to go five-hole. But as soon as a player shot the puck, the goalie would drop into the butterfly and close the opening, aided by 6 or more inches of knee protection on top of 38 inches of pads, all to protect a net that is only 6 feet wide.

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August 3, 2008  10:40 AM ET

Why not? I'd like to see more goals, just keep it fair.

August 3, 2008  11:31 AM ET

Agred, LGP. We saw too little scoring last year. Only 2 players cracked a 100-point mark while for example in 1992-93 season tenth Marc Recchi had 123 (!). People's average height soars, goaltenders can save a plethora of shots without excessive padding

August 3, 2008  11:31 AM ET

* Agreed.

August 3, 2008  11:38 AM ET

They should get rid of the curve limits on sticks too. The whole reason it was created in the first place was to protect goalies because the padding wasn't that good. Now the padding is excellent but they still haven't removed the limit. If I'm not mistaken there isn't one in the European leagues.

August 3, 2008  11:52 AM ET

It's kinda ironic that the goalie who's sorta responsible for the oversized padding in the first place, (Garth Snow) is now on a commitee to downsize it.

August 3, 2008  12:52 PM ET

What impact will this have on the Kings and Adruw Jones??

August 3, 2008  01:02 PM ET

Glen Healy said that goalies would use PVC pipe and other padding on the arms so that when they dropped down and lifted their arms they would have even more padding for the puck to at least slow down or deflect.

Check this article.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_10_227/ai_98541177/pg_2

August 3, 2008  02:20 PM ET

didnt they already trim it? enough is enough.

Gatheringofthevibes go there bros

August 3, 2008  03:17 PM ET

^^^^^^
In baseball, you can't put a midget at the plate (no strike zone), so maybe hockey has a goalie rule. I'll try to find out.

August 3, 2008  05:17 PM ET

thats ridiculous
leave the pads alone. the reason scoring is down is because goalies are better
you want more scoring? eliminate goalie coaches

August 3, 2008  06:12 PM ET

Sounds good. Let's wait and see.

August 3, 2008  06:53 PM ET

Or maybe scoring is down b/c there are too many damn teams and the real talent is spred too thin. I still would like to see more scroing though.

August 3, 2008  07:16 PM ET

"aided by 6 or more inches of knee protection on top of 38 inches of pads"

Making up figures doesn't help your case there, Boston Globe. No goalie has 6 inches of knee stacks. 2 or 3 is more realistic. Any goalie who had 6 inches of knee stacks would fall off of them. Knee stacks, by the way, are installed on the inside of the pad, aligned perpendicular to the ice when the pad is straight up, and are flat along the ice in the butterfly position. They protect the knee when driven down into the ice, and also alleviate stress caused on the knee and hip joints.

I wish the NHL realized that their new sizing rules have a trickle-down effect. After the first round of downsizing, virtually all leagues, from youth up to college and the IIHF, eventually adopted the same rules. The effect? Most goaltenders in North America were forced to buy brand new gear, costing $500-2000. I wonder how much input Reebok and Nike had on the rule changes. They've sure made a boatload of cash off of it.

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August 3, 2008  08:48 PM ET

I agree with the fan who said trim them 2 inches, the pads don't need to be trimmed 6 and if they are, what happen if we still don't see more scoring will the NHL ban goalie pads together, might as well play six skaters with empty nets. Goalies have gotten better, but we will always have contoversy in sports. Steroids in Baseball, no more 5 yard face mask penalty, what a joke. Mr Referee Tim D. betting on games, he deserves more jail time. Or the Super Sonics losing their team to Oklahoma, also the Expos did not need to leave Montreal, what's wrong with having two Canadian teams they Nats are not selling out in the District and love how they are in last place. Leave Brett Farve alone, let him compete for the starting job and enough of the USC athletic sanctions.

August 3, 2008  09:36 PM ET

Take a photo of Tom Barrasso in his rookie season & compare it to Rick DiPietro's pads of today. The difference is shocking. Shrink them to early 80's size and the best GAA will be 2.90.

August 3, 2008  09:37 PM ET

Kareokegoalie, What the he11 are you talking about? Knee stacks?
They are not shrinking the padding on the inside. They are shrinking the pads from the knees up. Thats the part that closes the five hole when a goalie goes butterfly. I've seen goalies with pads that go more than 1/2 way to their waist.
And who cares about your so called trickle down effect? My sons have worked a hockey shop all throughout high school and college and right now we have a trickle up effect. Basically a race to see how big you could make the equipment without compromising weight. You should know that these new pads cost a small fortune.
I coached my two sons in the youth leagues and up until Pee Wees (12 years old), the league was providing goalie equipment so I let my younger boy play net a few times. Wouldn't you know the kid is making circus saves out there and I'm thinking "Oh ****, I can't afford this". I got lucky, he liked scoring goals way more than playing goal. Point is, it has been expensive since I was a kid (60's) and the relative size of the equipment doesn't matter.

August 3, 2008  09:52 PM ET

Shamrock, you're right. But go back even further and look at Tony Esposito, Gerry Cheevers or Giacomin (spelling please). Holy cow, they were dressed like defensemen with bigger shin pads. Now I'm not suggesting we go back to that era, but the "Robo-Goalie equipment" that I feel was ushered in by Patrick Roy, not Garth Snow, has dramatically cut scoring. The position has evolved from a pure acrobatic/mental defective one, to a more positional/less reflexive one today. If you are kneeling in good position with giant equipment on, you hardly even have to move. If you are an excellent reflex goalie and you add the huge lightweight equipment, well......... That makes it pretty tough to score, eh?

 
August 3, 2008  09:53 PM ET

BTW, you still have to be a mental defective to want to play net!

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