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Do what you do best ... Sciocia manages, KRod gets saves, haters hate ... it's the natural order.

Why does this matter.......... This has been happening for many many years. What about team that are in last place and they wan their closer to get the recored. How many teams like Cubs etc were in last place and the only thing they had going was a batting leader or closer get saves in useless games? Let him do what he wants. I sure would want to do the same if i was in his shoes.

Oh come on! What is this?

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Save situation, bring in the closer...
These guys aren't used like the old relievers, why not do it.

These critics are right. Scioscia shouldn't have even thought about bringing in K-Rod till it's 7-6 with bases loaded and a 3-2 count on the hitter at the plate. What was he thinking. I swear, these baseball managers and their silly tactics.

It is what it is. The save rule needs to be drastically overhauled. To compare or equate most of the saves that today's relievers are enabled to achieve versus say the saves that someone like Goose Gossage achieved is tantamount to absurdity. The idea of the save that was originally concieved is not what it has turned into. it was supposed to be measure of a relievers true worth to a team. It quantified what that player actually was accomplishing. But now, as i have said, it has been reduced to absurdity. What is happening with K-Rod is no different than what any manager would do with any closer if he had the chance to achieve a new reord for saves. It is within the rules and in fact within the boundaries of fair play in my estimation. It is the rules that need to be changed not the way the manager uses his player.

Anyone that truly thinks that the Angels are padding Rodriguez's stats is just dumb.

You see, Francisco, who is already thought of as one of the elite closers in the game, will be a free agent at the end of this year. Why then would the Angels be trying to drive up his value by padding his stats. It's stupid to even think.

These critics are right. Scioscia shouldn't have even thought about bringing in K-Rod till it's 7-6 with bases loaded and a 3-2 count on the hitter at the plate. What was he thinking. I swear, these baseball managers and their silly tactics.
Arkelope | 08/14/08, 09:32 AM
now that is a save sitaution. balls to the walls. mano y mano. let's see who spits first. :)

"It is what it is. The save rule needs to be drastically overhauled. To compare or equate most of the saves that today's relievers are enabled to achieve versus say the saves that someone like Goose Gossage achieved"

Why start now then say 10 years ago? What they should do is get rid of thos "HARD SAVES" etc..........those just are for players go back to the team at the end of the year and saying.."HEY I HAD 50 HARD SAVES" I want 20 million a year..................fix whats is broken first then fix whats not.

Anyone that truly thinks that the Angels are padding Rodriguez's stats is just dumb.

You see, Francisco, who is already thought of as one of the elite closers in the game, will be a free agent at the end of this year. Why then would the Angels be trying to drive up his value by padding his stats. It's stupid to even think.
SlinkyRedfoot, Jr. | 08/14/08, 09:42 AM

intersting point Slinkster but i think that the LAAofA manager is doing a little padding here so his pitcher can get the record. Otherwise in the siuation indicated why not let someone else pitch? They certainly have room to experiment a bit to see if another pitcher can get outs in a so-called save situation. No? And if the pitcher allows a few base runners then you can still bring in the true closer. My vote: padding is going on but it is within the rules and not that big a deal. change the rule.

Why start now then say 10 years ago? What they should do is get rid of thos "HARD SAVES" etc..........those just are for players go back to the team at the end of the year and saying.."HEY I HAD 50 HARD SAVES" I want 20 million a year..................fix whats is broken first then fix whats not.
Grossedout9 | 08/14/08, 09:46 AM

Okay, smack me down and call me silly but say again. Not trying to make light of your point but i just am not sure what it is.

Up by 4, with 2 on in the 9th is a save situation and a no-brainer. Just last week the Yankees came back (with the aid of errors) to beat the Halos.

He may break the record but I think fatigue will set in first.......and last nights game was proof that he is being over used. I wonder what they will do without him in the playoffs. Just my 2 cents.

They need to go and change the way they use some of these relievers is what they need to do.

Up by 4, with 2 on in the 9th is a save situation and a no-brainer. Just last week the Yankees came back (with the aid of errors) to beat the Halos.
sacked92 | 08/14/08, 09:53 AM

Paint he whole scenario: add in ttat there were two outs already and that "Rodriguez needed four pitches to strike out Raul Ibanez for his 46th save". Again it is what it is. Change the rule or live with it. At least no PEDs are involved.

Didn't you guys read... Tieying run was on deck... Y would u be stupid to experiment and lose the game...That is y he is the closer, to close out games!!!!!

By all means, pad his numbers so there's no way they can sign him. Before getting Texiera they were in the middle of the league in offense and played a lot of close games and used their closer to close.
I don't remember anyone blaming the Yanks the year Mariano had over 50.

"Okay, smack me down and call me silly but say again. Not trying to make light of your point but i just am not sure what it is."

Little do people see beyond their own hand when trying to push their own views.........

What next? We r going to accuse the yanks manager for putting ARod every at bat when he gets closer to bonds record? LOL