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USC players gathered Sunday for the first time since losing at Oregon State, their place in the college football landscape changed but not as badly as some feared. The Trojans tumbled from No. 1 to ninth in the USA Today coaches' and Associated Press media polls and debuted at No. 7 in the Harris Interactive Poll. The coaches' poll, the Harris poll and computer rankings are used to determine the Bowl Championship Series standings, which come out for the first time next month. "Big picture-wise, we're still in good shape," quarterback Mark Sanchez said.

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September 29, 2008  06:15 AM ET

The USC love-fest continues. When PSU beat Oregon State, they are accused of playing a weak pre-conference. But when USC loses to them, the talk is about the talent of OSU and that Carol may not have prepared them or kept them focused. The pollsters do not want to admit they made a mistake. So by keeping USC as high as possible, maybe they'll still end up #1, so that way they don't have to admit they were overrated.

September 29, 2008  07:27 AM ET

Sure looks that way Lions. And watch the spin on the SEC losses.

September 29, 2008  08:44 AM ET

So let me try to understand this: #5 Ohio State loses to #1 USC and drops 8 spots to #14. tow weeks later, #1 USC loses to unranked (at most #44) Oregon State and drops 8 spots to #9?!?

Trojan Nation will say 3 other top 10 teams lost also. But #3 Georgia lost to #8 Alabama and drops 8 spots to #11, behind USC, who lost to an unranked team.

College Football Bowl Subdivision: Where they feed fans **** and tell them it's brownies.

September 29, 2008  08:45 AM ET

*two^^

September 29, 2008  09:02 AM ET

There is definitely a love affair with the Trojans. They are a talented team but that was a bad loss even if it was on the road. They should have had no problem staying motivated considering what OSU has done to them in past meetings. It is always interesting to hear how losses are explained away.

September 29, 2008  10:19 AM ET

Listen, the talent that USC rolls out every year is undisputable. They clearly have one of the best programs in college football. However, there is definitely an exaggeration...which I believe is perpetuated by the media...that USC and also many teams in the SEC are sooooo much better than any other major college football program in the country. This is not the first time this has happened to a hyped USC team - you have to go all the way back to...uh...LAST YEAR (STANFORD--REMEMBER). That's why every year, when these college football preseason rankings come out....I laugh. I laugh at how compelling these guys try and sell their picks for why Clemson is the team to beat in the ACC and that the SEC has 15 schools in the top 25 and should have more (that's what SEC fans would have you believe anyway). Then, when the season starts and all these so-called "upsets" happen they make excuses for these idiots saying - "they did the best they could considering nobody has played anyone". I laugh...but consider the implication of a team like Penn State who maybe...just maybe...runs their schedule and Missouri...runs their schedule...and USC finished 10-1...and Florida wins the SEC...or perhaps everyone that wins their conference has at least one loss...then what do you do? Well, you fall back on their schedule, (the teams they played and beat in the top 25) come up with some sort of half-brained system, take into consideration the amount of money a Florida vs. USC matchup would rake in versus a South Florida vs Missouri matchup would, eliminate all the other contenders and send them off to meaningless other money making scams (I mean Bowls) and call it a day. This is why college football is so interesting. This is why hundreds of thousands of fans pack stadiums each week hoping their team can pull the upset or pray that their team doesn't get upset. Just for the record....If Ohio State finished 10-1 and wins the Big Ten, Alabama wins the SEC with just one loss, and USC runs the table from here out, and Oklahoma wins the Big 12 with just one loss...and South Florida runs the table in the Big East...what would you do?

September 29, 2008  10:26 AM ET

Who cares about the Trojans... If u win your games... it doesnt matter about what someone else does... but everyone is losing... so u have to deal with the results

September 29, 2008  11:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The USC love-fest continues. When PSU beat Oregon State, they are accused of playing a weak pre-conference. But when USC loses to them, the talk is about the talent of OSU and that Carol may not have prepared them or kept them focused. The pollsters do not want to admit they made a mistake. So by keeping USC as high as possible, maybe they'll still end up #1, so that way they don't have to admit they were overrated.

Huh??..... conspiracy theories already?? ..... Look, there really aren't that many REALLY good teams in the country. Georgia, Florida and USC had bad days. That doesn't mean you drop them all below the also rans, which is what has happened to some extent. If you wanted to be really honest, none of these teams really should have dropped out of the Top 5-6. But that's not the way things go, so a few teams will need to lose before these teams float back into the Top 5..... it's inevitable..... Early losses don't hurt you....

September 29, 2008  11:57 AM ET

Mikrang07 - watch the manifestos..... however, I did agree with most of your points. The SEC homers are quite obnoxious & believe that all games are tough games.... even though there are plenty of patsies in the league (Miss, Miss St, Ark, Tenn, Kentucky, South Carolina at minimum) and although I'm a USC fan, I realize they need to win out to have a shot..... but just like last year, there will be plenty of upsets..... LSU lost to feckking Arkansas last year which should have been the death knell, but other losses by other teams left them in the game.....

My disagreements are with the Big 10 (they have no credibility at all) and Ohio State has no credibility playing good teams..... and you can't be serious about South Florida being considered......

September 29, 2008  12:02 PM ET

Sir Robin...The USC team I saw play Ohio State could potentially run the table. The one I saw against Oregon State has one or two more losses to look forward to. Let's see how they react to their embarrassing loss on Thursday before we start putting them in the NCG.

September 29, 2008  12:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

So let me try to understand this: #5 Ohio State loses to #1 USC and drops 8 spots to #14. tow weeks later, #1 USC loses to unranked (at most #44) Oregon State and drops 8 spots to #9?!?Trojan Nation will say 3 other top 10 teams lost also. But #3 Georgia lost to #8 Alabama and drops 8 spots to #11, behind USC, who lost to an unranked team.College Football Bowl Subdivision: Where they feed fans **** and tell them it's brownies.

That's funny...

Florida loses to a team that hasn't won an SEC game in 9 tries and been to a bowl game in 5 years...at home. They drop 8 spots to #12. But you argue it's some sort of USC conspiracy?

It's even debatable if USC is weaker than Texas Tech or BYU. Same for Georgia or Florida for that matter.

In the end, if USC, Georgia, and Florida do their jobs, this is all moot. Though, USC may need to really dominate the rest of their schedule to make it to the NCG.

September 29, 2008  12:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Sir Robin...The USC team I saw play Ohio State could potentially run the table. The one I saw against Oregon State has one or two more losses to look forward to. Let's see how they react to their embarrassing loss on Thursday before we start putting them in the NCG.

There is no way that USC runs the table. Sorry, I just don't see it. And, while I might be guilty of a little SEC-homerism, you cannot dispute that it is the strongest league top-to-bottom.

I don't think Sir Robin really understands the SEC if he leaves Vandy out of the lists of patsies but leaves in South Carolina (are you really going to underestimate any Spurrier-coached team?).

It was a crazy weeked for college football starting with the Oregon State upset. I don't see anyone making it to bowl season unscathed. I do, however, believe an SEC team will be in the NCG.

September 29, 2008  12:47 PM ET

If you're only giving USC a 0% chance of running the table, you've got bigger problems than a little SEC homer-ism. :)

I'd say the probability it a bit north of 0%.

September 29, 2008  12:51 PM ET

I'm just glad that Fan Nation didn't show another bad picture of Charlie Weis!

September 29, 2008  01:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

If you're only giving USC a 0% chance of running the table, you've got bigger problems than a little SEC homer-ism. :)I'd say the probability it a bit north of 0%.

I try really hard to never say never (this past weekend is evidence as to why). Let's just leave it at highly unlikely that USC runs that table.

September 29, 2008  01:17 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

There is no way that USC runs the table. Sorry, I just don't see it. And, while I might be guilty of a little SEC-homerism, you cannot dispute that it is the strongest league top-to-bottom. I don't think Sir Robin really understands the SEC if he leaves Vandy out of the lists of patsies but leaves in South Carolina (are you really going to underestimate any Spurrier-coached team?). It was a crazy weeked for college football starting with the Oregon State upset. I don't see anyone making it to bowl season unscathed. I do, however, believe an SEC team will be in the NCG.

I live in the South..... I know all about the SEC.... S. Carolina has a very good defense, but no offense and Vandy seems to be better than normal.... but I'll agree Vandy could have been included in this list along with Carolina.... Spurrier doesn't have any magic for this 6-7 win team.... what are we in here, year 4 or 5.... it's not happening....

An SEC team will almost undoubtedly be in the final game.... the thing I object to, however, is that I hear SEC fans saying that every team in the SEC is strong, so the Ole Miss game wasn't that bad of a loss.... wrong.... it was equivalent to the USC /OSU loss.... they were both horrendous losses..... Ole Miss is not a good team..... they just had a great day, like OSU.....

September 29, 2008  01:21 PM ET

I don't see the comment about USC not running the table..... all of their "tough" games are at home, and I use the term loosely since the Pac 10 is weaker than normal. They could very well run the table.... but they can't turn the ball over and commit stupid penalties and expect to win games on the road. The Georgia game was almost a carbon copy. Georgia committed so many mistakes that they took themself out of the game in the first half..... just like USC..... nobody can expect to just show up and win every week.... I didn't see the Florida game, but I would imagine that Florida must have been pretty sloppy....

September 29, 2008  01:29 PM ET
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Ithe thing I object to, however, is that I hear SEC fans saying that every team in the SEC is strong, so the Ole Miss game wasn't that bad of a loss....

Okay, then I guess I can't be called an SEC homer at all. Because there is NO WAY you will ever hear me say that the Ole Miss game wasn't that bad of a loss. It was a terrible loss, and Ole Miss is definitely one I'd include with the historic SEC patsies. While I think Ole Miss is probably stronger than OSU, I don't think Florida is stronger than USC - not this year anyway.

Regarding USC running the table, I could see Stanford, Cal, or UCLA pulling an upset. You are right, SR, USC can't do it if they beat themselves. I'd say they probably need to stay mistake-free, at least critical mistakes. It now might simply be an issue of those other schools now smelling blood in the water...

September 29, 2008  02:10 PM ET

how do you idiots say the usc love fest continues, they fell 8 spots, UF fell about 8-9 spots and so did UGA. UF lost @ home to ole miss so UF should of fell further down the poll if you all think usc didnt fall far enough. UGA shouldnt be in the top 15 because they got MURDERED by Alabama. So lets not talk about the USC love fest. When USC lost that was everyone elses chance to make there move, but they didnt (Wisconsin, UGA and UF). But like I always say if your going to lose a game, now is the time to lose 1. Because at the end of the year the bcs will scramble, and their will be a debate on whos in and whos not. USC has a slim chance now but hey its football WIN or go home!!!

 
September 29, 2008  02:12 PM ET

after the oregon st loss usc is wide awake and well aware of whats at stake now, time to win the rest

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