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Looks like Mark knows the end is near for CC and the Yankees will sign him.

What's fair about taking money away from teams that spend the money on players? If you're going to take money from them, then make sure teams apply the money to the payroll and not have the owners pocket the money like the Royals and others who still refuse to spend. If you can't put a competitive team on the field and still make money, you should sell the team and open a dairy queen somewhere.

"if they really wanted to have a fair fight they would do more revenue sharing."

Why in God's name would you think the Yankees want a fair fight. They've got theirs. Screw the Royals, Pirates, and Reds. Two things that will never happen, MLBPA supporting a salary cap or big market teams supporting more revenue sharing.

Maybe there should be a AAAA minor league for these cry baby "small" revenue teams who want nothing but hand outs. I am tired of this tripe being bandied about. Part of the problem is that the Majors should have never went from two leagues, the NL & the AL, and eight teams in each league. There are now too mn yteams and there is now a very watered down product on the fields of the major league teams being displayed. It used to be only the best of all pro players were in the Majors but now there are many players in the Majors who should get down on their kness every night and thank the greed of those that run MLB for the fact that they can presently make millions when they should be riding buses from town to town in places like Cedar Rocks, Altoona or Bridgeport. With two eight team leagues there could still have two four team divisons. A playoff between the two best in each divsion and then the WS. And go back to the 154 game schedule while we are at it. And, i know this is really pushing it now, but going back to double header every Sunday would be good, also. Then we might get the WS Series in before the first snow fall. And start the season in the middle of April where in most places snow is only an after thought instead of having possible blizzards on April fools day.

Aslo, just for laughs going back to1988 through 1992 here are what the MLB payroll expenditures were: (numbers are in millions) (1) in 1988 NYY = 18.9; NYM, Boston, & LAD all around 15.5; (2) in 1989 LAD = 21.5; NYY = 20.49; NYM = 20; & Boston = 18.5; (3) in 1990 KCR !!!!!!!!!! = 23.9; NYM = 22.2; LAA = 21.8; LAD = 21.6 & NYY = 20.1; (4) in 1991 OAkland = 33.6; LAD = 33.2; NYM = 32.5; LAA = 31.7; SF = 30.9; KCR !!!!! = 28.7; NYY = 27.8 and in 1992 NYM = 44.3; LAD = 43.7; Boston = 42.2 and NYY 39.9

Notice anything about those numbers? Like during most of those years the Yankees were not always the biggest spenders on the MLB landscape. AND that teams like Kansas City and Oakland were actaully in the mix and ahead of the Yankees.

Agree, too many teams, too many regular season games, and the playoffs are too long. Let's go back to the days of the reserve clause. Remember those days in the 1970's? When owners in Cincinnati and Oakland scouted and developed great teams? And the Yankees where irrelevant? And they could keep those teams together? What would it cost today to keep the A's and the Reds of the '70's together? What, around say 200,000,000? Which teams in which cities have those kind of resources to spend like that today? But in the end, MLB likes the skewed revenue stream which keeps the same big market teams going back to the post season year after year, so nothing will change. So, yeah, stop bytching and enjoy watching the same teams play in October every year.

should we call the waaaa-mbulance ?

There is no cap in the game- the Yankees play by the rules
that are currently in place. they pay plenty of luxury tax-
which is the 'penalty' for spending $

The Yankees can't control the fact that they are the biggest name and market in all of baseball. They have build an empire there going back to the 1920's and winning 26 world championships playing in a city that loves baseball. Just like in Wisconsin where the Packers and cheese dominate their state's heart. If these teams can't draw the revenue to go after free agents, thats their problem. Don't free load off the Yankees by taking shares of what they deservably make....

Cry baby, go get your sucker.

These guys never give credit to te Yanks for what they contribute to the entire sport of baseball. Aside from the obvious (millions of dollars in revenue sharing each year), they draw in many thousands of fans to visiting ball parks during 81 away games each season. They also raise the visibility of the sport to many people, here and abroad, who nothing about baseball other than the legendary New York Yankees.

The bottom line is the teams need each other, you can't play against yourself. The most successful league in America is the NFL: salary cap and revenue sharing. It keeps more people interested and more teams competitive. The issue is Yanks are run by moron baseball people who don't have the ability to do what other GMs and Owners have to do to be successful: be able to scout and develop talent. They just throw money around and still cant make the playoffs.

Maybe Attanasio should be a little more concerned with the playoffs than the offseason right now.

The Yankees invest more in their product than the other teams. It's that simple. Not all of their investments have worked out, but the bottom line is that they are operating within the rules. Share even more revenue with the pocket-lining owners of weaker teams? While we're at it, why don't we join hands and sing kumbaya after each game and give everyone a trophy "just for participating"? Gimme a break.

"It's always amusing to me to hear the Yankees, they can't get into the playoffs with $200 million"

Wow...we missed the playoffs once in the past 13 years...you got there once in 25 years and are gonna get knocked out in 3 games, and probably won't make it for another 25 years. Quit your bitching, and move your team out of milwaukee to a bigger market, and you can make more money. You need to complain to your fans about their lack of support...not the Yanks.

Deuces

Tampa Bay certainly arent a big money team and they could just about win it all, so lack of money just doesnt really fly!

I hate people who attack the ever so vulnerable payroll argument. The whole team was injured at some point. The Yankees had no chance this year..

Just for poops and giggles, the owners that do pay the luxury tax should reduce their payroll to avoid paying the bottom feeders of the league. Want to see how fast they start whining when their allowance is taken away? That would send a message.

And as far as the fair fight argument the Brewers are complaining about, is it fair that they can go out and rent a pitcher for the playoffs and then abuse him by having him pitch on three days rest for several games while other teams leave their rosters intact?

I hope the Yankees sign Sabathia to a 7 year, $210 million contract and the Mets sign K-Rod for the 5 year $100 million contract he wants. The play-offs have exposed both of them for the fakers they are. While the ability to spend a fortune is an advantage, player development and signing your young stars to long term deals is the new path to success. I agree with revenue sharing, but some sort of mechanism needs to be put into place to assure that owners of teams such as the Marlins invest their windfall into players. That team must be moved, it is an embarrassment for baseball to have 600 people in the stands.

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Originally posted 02:28 PM ET  10.04 by mishagothe

I hope the Yankees sign Sabathia to a 7 year, $210 million contract and the Mets sign K-Rod for the 5 year $100 million contract he wants. The play-offs have exposed both of them for the fakers they are. While the ability to spend a fortune is an advantage, player development and signing your young stars to long term deals is the new path to success. I agree with revenue sharing, but some sort of mechanism needs to be put into place to assure that owners of teams such as the Marlins invest their windfall into players. That team must be moved, it is an embarrassment for baseball to have 600 people in the stands.

You been diving in your submarines without the hatch closed again? Neither of those contracts are ever going to be relaized. And i predict that while the Mets may go after KRod- God have pity on their souls - the Yankees will not go that big after CC and in fact will not even be close to the highest biddr for his services.
I do agree: any team that receives revenue sharing funds must reinvest those funds into running that team.

Where the hell does the Brewers owner get off saying the Yankees won't play fair??? Where is it written that they SHOULD "play fair"? What a dufus! How many organizations ANYWHERE (other than the US Gov't!) are willing to give some of their money to their less fortunate competitors? What a ridiculous "poor me" whine!

There are TWO ways to resolve the "Big Market" vs "Small Market" chasm in MLB: a) Allow teams to move to wherever they would prefer to be. NYC could support about 4 teams. So could LA. If team owners don't like operating in the small markets, move the hell out! b) Let the "small market" teams close their freakin' doors! If it isn't feasible to operate a team in a small market, then don't freakin' try it! Businesses sell of their assets and close their doors every day.

this guy is a complete idiot. the yankees might not have made the playoffs this year, but they still won just as many games as the brewers playing in a much tougher division AND league. He just knows that he is not going to have as good of a chance to sign Sabathia as the Yankees. And has he forgotten about the luxury and revenue taxes the Yankees give to the smaller market teams every year?

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Originally posted 03:56 PM ET  10.04 by smcgrath

this guy is a complete idiot. the yankees might not have made the playoffs this year, but they still won just as many games as the brewers playing in a much tougher division AND league. He just knows that he is not going to have as good of a chance to sign Sabathia as the Yankees. And has he forgotten about the luxury and revenue taxes the Yankees give to the smaller market teams every year?

Dont matter, they sucked this year, last year, etc and prolly will next year. You play to win, its that simple.

Yankoffs are a joke, but what else is new, wheres Ruth!