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Put a fork in Guerrero...he's done. I don't think he will have a big year again. The Lackey deal makes some sense. They need to sign Manny this offseaon

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Originally posted 05:20 AM ET  10.29 by salvaje50

Put a fork in Guerrero...he's done. I don't think he will have a big year again. The Lackey deal makes some sense. They need to sign Manny this offseaon

Manny will only help your team initially, say half a season. Then Manny will be, well Manny. Keep 'em both I mean the Angels did so well with them, why not?

Vlad is on the backside of his career, I can see manny as a DH but he will want to much $$$$

K-Rod will be gone for sure. So they could bring back Lackey and Vlad IF the price is right.

Vladimir's recent A-Roditis has to be some cause for concern.

Vlad's got the mobility of a rigamorticized hooker and the stick-to-itiveness of a Danny Bonnaduce

How UNBELIEVABLY smart is Angel management with these
two contracts......10 mil for Lackey? 15 for Vlad ?
that's peanuts in this market

Even if vlad isn't the same-
he hit 300 last year & had 27 homers...that's not too shabby

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Originally posted 10:27 AM ET  10.29 by The TRUTH

Vlad's got the mobility of a rigamorticized hooker and the stick-to-itiveness of a Danny Bonnaduce

agree. And that was never more evident in the playoff game against Boston when he tried to advance to third on that bloop over Youk's head. He was thrown out and he wasn't 4 steps off second. Watching him run was painful. Looked like he was running in 4 feet of water.

and his age is catching up to his approach at the plate. Younger guys can be more agressive and swing like he does, but not when you get older.

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Originally posted 10:32 AM ET  10.29 by jgb

How UNBELIEVABLY smart is Angel management with thesetwo contracts......10 mil for Lackey? 15 for Vlad ?that's peanuts in this marketEven if vlad isn't the same- he hit 300 last year & had 27 homers...that's not too shabby

I'd put the money on Lackey - he's a stud.

But Vlad is on the downside and the slope for a player like him is steep. that .300/27HR could easily turn into .280/20...do you really want to play $15MM for that?

manny being manny comment is getting old . Bottom line he's is one of the greatest hitters of all time . And any team with the exception of Boston would love to have him in their lineup .

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Originally posted 11:26 AM ET  10.29 by rjf

manny being manny comment is getting old . Bottom line he's is one of the greatest hitters of all time . And any team with the exception of Boston would love to have him in their lineup .

Not Philly buddy. I'd rather have Pat the Bat for a lot less and get a lot more in terms of fielding and throwing.

Vlad pounds the ball, but is not disciplined. He is a great hitter, when he connects...

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Originally posted 10:35 AM ET  10.29 by ME DUM DUM

I'd put the money on Lackey - he's a stud. But Vlad is on the downside and the slope for a player like him is steep. that .300/27HR could easily turn into .280/20...do you really want to play $15MM for that?

for a one year option pick-up.....ABSOLUTELY

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Originally posted 01:07 PM ET  10.29 by AllStarz

Vlad pounds the ball, but is not disciplined. He is a great hitter, when he connects...

he 'only' struck out 77 times last year....not terrible
for a power hitter - and that was just a bit over his
career average - probably due more with injuries and overcompensating.

Angels need to keep it together one more year to make another run.....

this organization to me seems to continue to make the right calls with few if any wrong calls. lackey is work horse that eats up innings and throws a lot of strikes and vlad while on the downside of his career is still a consistent run producer. locking up tex would be a nice bat in the middle of that lineup for years to come but even he doesn't sign with them they will find someone else to fill the void.

That picture in the article; is that supposed to be Vlad Guerrero or Bunny Wailer?

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Originally posted 11:26 AM ET  10.29 by rjf

manny being manny comment is getting old . Bottom line he's is one of the greatest hitters of all time . And any team with the exception of Boston would love to have him in their lineup .

that's the thing. on the one hand, manny is a game changer. for god's sake i think i could hit .250 if i was batting in front of manny. on the other hand, manny is capable of choosing not to put his best foot forward. he's worth every penny he can get when he is locked in. but if you sign him you run the risk of him phoning it in. i think the boston experience sums it up perfectly. couldn't live with him. really missed his bat in the order when he was gone

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Originally posted 01:28 PM ET  10.29 by jgb

he 'only' struck out 77 times last year....not terrible for a power hitter - and that was just a bit over his career average - probably due more with injuries and overcompensating.

He is not patient at the plate, he goes after and hits balls out of the zone, i think if he were more patient he would be a better hitter.

Manny being Manny is old.