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Troy Percival part II?
Hopefully the Tigers have learned their lesson and will pass on another closer at the end of his career.

That's a good idea^. They have too many candidates within the system to be peddling good prospects away here.

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Originally posted 06:58 AM ET  11.11 by TGRFAN1

Troy Percival part II?Hopefully the Tigers have learned their lesson and will pass on another closer at the end of his career.

I hope your right. It would be painful to watch them go through that again...

Hoffman is still effective. However, he and his family love the San Diego area. Before his last contract, Cleveland was courting him pretty seriously and he feigned interest in order to drive up the Padres offer. I'm wondering if this is the same type of tactic from the other side. Then again, for a team that lost 99 games and is about to dump their star pitcher, I'm not really sure what a closer would do for them. Should be intersting as the Indians are again looking for a closer.

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Originally posted 06:58 AM ET  11.11 by TGRFAN1

Troy Percival part II?Hopefully the Tigers have learned their lesson and will pass on another closer at the end of his career.

Didn't Jonesy take them all the way to the World Series?

Having a veteran or two in the bullpen isn't a bad thing if they are the right guys. Jones and Rogers doubled as coaches for many of the young guys. I think bringing in a reliable veteran and our new pitching coach could help corral some of the young pitching talent we do have.

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Originally posted 07:39 AM ET  11.11 by SlinkyRedfoot

Hoffman is still effective. However, he and his family love the San Diego area. Before his last contract, Cleveland was courting him pretty seriously and he feigned interest in order to drive up the Padres offer. I'm wondering if this is the same type of tactic from the other side. Then again, for a team that lost 99 games and is about to dump their star pitcher, I'm not really sure what a closer would do for them. Should be intersting as the Indians are again looking for a closer.

Sure they love San Diego, but let's be honest, it's not like Detroit is like most other cities.

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Originally posted 07:41 AM ET  11.11 by biminator

Sure they love San Diego, but let's be honest, it's not like Detroit is like most other cities.

If you read the actual article it also speaks about us courting Brandon Lyon... Who is 12 years younger than Hoff. While I believe a vet presence in the pen is great I still know we need about 2 years before we believe any prospect can handle the job. And we all know how Zumaya has been working out on that same kinda schedule. I say pursue Lyon- the last thing we need is to be re-debating a 43 year old in our bullpen in 2 years as opposed to a 31 year old Lyon... Now with the young team Cleveland has ALL around Hoffmans presence might be better served... Personally.

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Originally posted 07:41 AM ET  11.11 by biminator

Sure they love San Diego, but let's be honest, it's not like Detroit is like most other cities.

Been to Detroit, as well as Cleveland, they are both sheet-hole cities

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Originally posted 07:39 AM ET  11.11 by SlinkyRedfoot

Hoffman is still effective. However, he and his family love the San Diego area. Before his last contract, Cleveland was courting him pretty seriously and he feigned interest in order to drive up the Padres offer. I'm wondering if this is the same type of tactic from the other side. Then again, for a team that lost 99 games and is about to dump their star pitcher, I'm not really sure what a closer would do for them. Should be intersting as the Indians are again looking for a closer.

So would you like to see Hoffman on the Indians? Just asking. Y'know a lot of people thought Lidge was done.............oops!

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Originally posted 08:27 AM ET  11.11 by -SlinkyRedfoot-

Been to Detroit, as well as Cleveland, they are both sheet-hole cities

Spend alot of time in sheet holes? Guess you and Grossed out should get along fine...

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Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  11.11 by Chasin' Utleys

So would you like to see Hoffman on the Indians? Just asking. Y'know a lot of people thought Lidge was done.............oops!

I still believe Lidge and Hoffman are two differnt stories. And even though Hoffman didn't have alot of opportunities to garner saves last season- his performance was well, sub-par. Personally his reign might only be- at best, at the tail end of twilight, if not completely over...

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Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  11.11 by Chasin' Utleys

So would you like to see Hoffman on the Indians? Just asking. Y'know a lot of people thought Lidge was done.............oops!

BTW- havent been around much but Chasin, congrats on tweams WS win... Not that I watched any of it but you know, I heard the city wasn't completely burnt down in the festivities...

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Originally posted 08:27 AM ET  11.11 by -SlinkyRedfoot-

Been to Detroit, as well as Cleveland, they are both sheet-hole cities

Hard to take seriously a person's opinion on cities that won't even list his own.....

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Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  11.11 by TGRFAN1

Hard to take seriously a person's opinion on cities that won't even list his own.....

I think no one really takes stinky seriously...

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Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  11.11 by TGRFAN1

Hard to take seriously a person's opinion on cities that won't even list his own.....

San Diego, Ca., .....................

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Originally posted 08:27 AM ET  11.11 by -SlinkyRedfoot-

Been to Detroit, as well as Cleveland, they are both sheet-hole cities

Been to Detroit, as well as Cleveland, they are both sheet-hole cities

From "Hells Bell's" to "Get the hell out of here! " It's about time the Pad's dump this grossly overrated gravey sponge. He creates half of his save opportunities by giving up stupid runs. He should thank Bochy for gift wrapping all those saves for him. Please take Khalil Green with you, Trev!!!

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Originally posted 08:44 AM ET  11.11 by A Fact

BTW- havent been around much but Chasin, congrats on tweams WS win... Not that I watched any of it but you know, I heard the city wasn't completely burnt down in the festivities...

Thank you, I know you've been absent from the threads for a little while now. The point I was making is that Lidge was allegedly done after the Pujols HR and he laced up his boot straps and got his mojo back. Juststay away from Billy Wagner, the rat, 'cause he's been done for some time now.

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Originally posted 08:58 AM ET  11.11 by -SlinkyRedfoot-

San Diego, Ca., .....................

Well, you've got me there! S.D. is very nice.

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Originally posted 09:05 AM ET  11.11 by Chasin' Utleys

Just stay away from Billy Wagner, the rat, 'cause he's been done for some time now.

Isn't Wagner out for the entire next season as well? Oh well, like I said- I would rather take my chances on Lyon. We drafted nearly all power college arms last draft. and while they won't be ready for the bigs this season, next season is plausible. They are doing well in the AFL combining for shut outs and eating innings for the team. Something Detroit really needs. I want us to not just find a season long stop gap- the kids wouldn't be ready, but get Lyon for 3 4 years it brings up set up role scenarios to bring someone along more fluidly. These 2 year scenarios with Zumaya all the time still give me nightmares. You cannot put a schedule to a player let alone a **** pitcher...