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That offer was ABSOLUTELY a jooke-
22.5 mil - for 2 years ?
They should've put 30 mil per on the table for 2 years

If ANY team gives manny more than 3 years they are STUPID

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Originally posted 08:42 AM ET  11.15 by jgb

That offer was ABSOLUTELY a jooke-22.5 mil - for 2 years ?They should've put 30 mil per on the table for 2 yearsIf ANY team gives manny more than 3 years they are STUPID

I could live with the Yankees giving him four years and a hundred mil. He'd be worth every penny as far as I'm concerned.

Teams should be more concerned with his attitude declining over the length of the contract than his skills. After a couple of years, he won't be happy and will turn into a team cancer again. The grass always looks greener somewhere else.

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Originally posted 09:18 AM ET  11.15 by Atro Steals Yer Base

I could live with the Yankees giving him four years and a hundred mil. He'd be worth every penny as far as I'm concerned.

it's not the $- I'd take him here....It's his motivation
he KNEW he had to be on his best behavior so he'd get another contract.....He'll hit- no doubt- I'm just afraid that if he gets 'comfortable' he'd become a pain in the arse.

Whoever signs this rectum gets exactly what they deserve.

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Originally posted 01:56 PM ET  11.15 by Tell it like it is

Whoever signs this rectum gets exactly what they deserve.

Agreed. He will behave the first 2 months and be a model citizen but after that expect him to go back to being... well Manny. He is the kind of player who needs short term deals that will always keep him in a contract year and thus make him behave and play to his full ability. Dodgers have nothing but good to say about him because in the 2 months he was there he was playing to his full potential, giving it 110% and on his best behavior. The team that does sign him should not expect that to happen. He will hit great but does that outweigh all his negatives?

The comparison that Boras makes between Manny and Bonds is invalid when you consider the fact that Bonds's productivity was inflated by artificial means. The Dodgers are doing a good job in being cautious with the number of years they give Manny, regardless of how good he is.

I love the way Manny plays the game. I've been a "Manny fan" every since his days with the Cleveland Indians. He has always had a very dependable, deadly bat. His production (numbers, i.e.; HR, RBI, slugging percentage and average) has always been consistently great. If you check the stats over his career, compared to other MLB peers, Manny is right there among to top producers [forget all that nonsense that the BoSox thought he was a major distraction. Boston always seems to have a "distraction". Most of the time I think its the team, in whole, itself. Not just one problem player, i.e.]. Manny deserves a new, lucrative contract! The Dodgers would not have gotten over the "hump", last season (in my opinion) without the addition of Manny. But, I have one slight criticism. His agent Scott Boras doesn't always seem to be good for the overall health of MLB. I don't want to get on Mr. Boras' case like some people did during his 60 Minutes segment a few years, ago. But, let's be realistic. As a baseball nut, I would agree that Manny should get a four (4) year contract. He will be 40 at its conclusion. Boras is trying to sucker an addition $20 million out of some ballclub, by asking for a fifth year. Period.

He is still only a two tool player! Great hitter but can't run, field or throw at even an above average level. Who thinks he'll ever get better at these things? Leg injuries are always a problem at his age. Good luck on a long term deal for this bird!

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Originally posted 12:44 PM ET  11.15 by jgb

it's not the $- I'd take him here....It's his motivationhe KNEW he had to be on his best behavior so he'd get another contract.....He'll hit- no doubt- I'm just afraid that if he gets 'comfortable' he'd become a pain in the arse.

After this he's got nothing, except maybe for a gig welcoming players to the MGM Grand. This will be his last lucrative contract, and he and his agent both know that if he jacks off like he did this year, his name is mud. If he gets four years with the Yankees at 25 mil, no way he gets anything close to that when his contract expires, especially with the Yanks. He might get a one year cameo deal with the Marlins or something like that, but this is his last real shot at baseball immortality. Look for Manny to settle down and do his best to pad up his stats with the Yankees.

You mean manny didn't want an andruw jones contract? hmm...

Baseball needs a cap on what the top player can make. It's stupid to give that much money to someone to play a game, then have someone else top it each day. Curt Flood ruined baseball

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Originally posted 02:18 PM ET  11.15 by bCColtrinari

Agreed. He will behave the first 2 months and be a model citizen but after that expect him to go back to being... well Manny. He is the kind of player who needs short term deals that will always keep him in a contract year and thus make him behave and play to his full ability. Dodgers have nothing but good to say about him because in the 2 months he was there he was playing to his full potential, giving it 110% and on his best behavior. The team that does sign him should not expect that to happen. He will hit great but does that outweigh all his negatives?

Agreed.

Think about something.....

The people running the Red Sox are no dummies. They know all about what life with Manny is like, they were living it. Money is not a factor when it involves a player they want, that's been proven many times.

Their thought out and carefully considered opinion on Manny is pretty simple. After everything is said and done they paid somebody to take him off their hands in the middle of a pennant race. Despite his obvious gifts, they felt that ditching this guy was smarter than keeping him!

Caveat Emptor! When Manny feels like it he is a terrific DH. His fielding is well below average, in fact, he is a liability. He has a good arm, but lacks the concept of what to do with that big leather thing at the end of his other arm so what good is his good arm? As a baserunner, note please that John Kruk has more stolen sacks than Manny, so 'nuff said there. As for knowledge of the game outside the batters box? Safe to say that when Tim McCarver looks like Einstein next to you there probably ain't much wattage in the think department....

Manny is Manny. As a Boston die hard, I was glad to see him come in, and I was glad to see him go. I appreciate the good things, and feel sad about the bad. When he wants to do it, he hits a ton, and appears to be a source of never ending amusement for all who are around him, but when he gets his panties in a twist he's another story. As he ages and his skills diminish, count on seeing the troublesome Manny more and more. His considerable ego will be the last to go.......

muck fanny, he is a lazy selfish cancer who hits a ton. what is that worth? what will it cost in non-monetary terms?

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Originally posted 11:01 PM ET  11.16 by AllStarz

muck fanny, he is a lazy selfish cancer who hits a ton. what is that worth? what will it cost in non-monetary terms?

"What is that worth?"

umm....to the Dodgers it was worth a playoff trip, plus winning the first round. To the Red Sox, it was worth a couple of World Series rings.

"he is a lazy selfish cancer"

Lazy is one term people who have played with Manny don't use. He prepares as much as anyone in the game, watching tape, hitting off a tee, hitting in the batting cage, studying opposing pitchers.

All the guy does is put up numbers. He's one of the top 3 hitters in the game, with A-Rod and Pujols. No one else is consistently close to those 3. He deserves money commensurate to what he does.

THAT SAID, it would be insane to give him a 5 year contract. And it's insane for Boras to point to the contract he got for Bonds, which he negotiated with Ned Colletti, now the Dodgers' GM. That one kinda bit Colletti in the ****, didn't it? Bonds was reviled as the worst cheater in MLB history, AND he missed a ton of time to injury towards the end, AND his production fell off sharply at the end. Why would Colletti want that again?

Oh yeah, Manny was also worth an extra 5000 fans per game. At an average ticket price of $20 (that's what I pay for my season tickets), that equates to about $8,000,000 per year just in gate revenue. That doesn't take into account the increased concessions sales, and the fact that Manny merchandise FLEW out of the souvenir stands. I personally spent $30 on one of those dumb Manny wigs. He really would pay for himself the first few years.