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this day in sports history: mm/dd/yyyy:

16/11/1532 - Pizzaro captures Incan emperor Atahaulpa
16/11/1909 - EVV Eindhoven soccer team forms
16/11/1957 - Celtic Bill Russell sets NBA record of 49 rebounds beat Phila 111-89
16/11/1962 - Wilt Chamberlain of NBA SF Warriors scores 73 points vs NY Knicks
16/11/1974 - Milwaukee Bucks lose their 11th straight NBA game (team record)
16/11/1975 - Sandra Haynie wins LPGA Jacksonville Ladies Golf Open
16/11/1976 - Rick Barry (SF), ends then longest NBA free throw streak of 60
16/11/1978 - Major Indoor Soccer League holds its 1st draft
16/11/1982 - Aggrement reached ending 57 day football strike
16/11/1984 - Houston blocks 20 Denver shots tying NBA regulation game record
16/11/1984 - Imran Khan makes his 1st appearance for NSW Cricket
16/11/1988 - Robin Givens sues Mike Tyson for $125 million for libel
16/11/1993 - Horse Racing Breeders' Cup Champs: Arcangues, Brocco, Cardmania, Hollywood Wildcat, Kotashaan, Lure, Phone Chatter at Belmont
16/11/1997 - CFL Grey Cup: Toronto beats Saskatchawan, 47-23

I was bored. :)

I wonder if the Braves would trade for Carlos Lee. There supposed to be looking for a LF through the trade market, and Lee would definitely be the best available. Miggy would also be good if we trade escobar

what the hell is houston doing?

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Originally posted 09:24 AM ET  11.16 by arnold08

I wonder if the Braves would trade for Carlos Lee.

I was thinking the exact same when I read the article. IMO Atlanta could use a slugging left fielder and let the young guys fill out the pitching rotation.

I dont think anyone would want miggy but lee and Valdere are possibilties. If they want propects put Oslwalt on the block and get a huge return value

Carlos Lee = Pat Burrell's replacement

why would the boston globe know anything about the astros situation?

drayton mcllane would never sell of his team and rebuild (look back to 2000), even if it was for the best.

I think Houston is actually getting a jump on what a lot of teams are going to be doing the next couple of years. Believe it or not this whole economic mess is eventually going to have a big effect on MLB.

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Originally posted 06:24 PM ET  11.16 by big wood

I think Houston is actually getting a jump on what a lot of teams are going to be doing the next couple of years. Believe it or not this whole economic mess is eventually going to have a big effect on MLB.

You have a good point there! I could see that happening, except maybe Steinbrenner, LOL !!!

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Originally posted 02:26 PM ET  11.16 by RomoTheChokeArtist

Carlos Lee = Pat Burrell's replacement

Getting Carlos Lee in Philly would be nice. It would also be possible since they would be dealing with Ed Wade, who they already fleeced in the Lidge deal last year. Something like Lee for Geoff Jenkins and Adam Eaton would be good.

Nah we would need to send him some middle relievers. He loved him some middle relievers while he was in philly

QUOTE(#9):

Originally posted 06:24 PM ET  11.16 by big wood

I think Houston is actually getting a jump on what a lot of teams are going to be doing the next couple of years. Believe it or not this whole economic mess is eventually going to have a big effect on MLB.

You may have a point. How are companies going to justify the huge expense of keeping luxury suites and boxes at the stadium when they are losing money? How many holders of those rooms have already disappeared from existence, especially on Wall Street?

We'll what the FA market does this year. I'll be surprised if it doesn't start dropping by next off season.

Not to bust anyones bubble but in hard economic times sports/entertainment becomes even mor important, yes, some corporate sponsorship may dry up, but it is not going to be so bad as to effect payroll...that would e cheap ownership getting cheaper.

If things get as bad as they seem to be heading, prices and salaries will come down.

We've not had bad economic times since going to a game became a luxury item or since corporate luxury boxes became such a big part of the owners income. We'll see what happens.

I think Lee would give up his NTC to go to the World Champion Phillies to replace Burrell, but he isn't going to go to Sabean's Giants. In Houston, they have Tejada, Berkman, and some speed in the line-up. On the Giants, Lee would be the only guy with more than 13 HR in their line-up of has-beens and the untested. Why would he willingly go into baseball purgatory?

Houston should trade Berkman to the Angels for 2 young stud starters and at least one more prospect (corner OF or 3b). They could then use their $$ to fortify their bench and pen (instead of paying the Big Unit $15M for a .500 record) and bring on a low-risk/high reward career salvage project like Richie Sexson or a solid hitting former middle IF like Nomar Garciparra/Jeff Kent to man 1b for 2009. They'd cut salary, get younger in the rotation, and field a team better than 2008.

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Originally posted 07:11 PM ET  11.16 by Weed

Getting Carlos Lee in Philly would be nice. It would also be possible since they would be dealing with Ed Wade, who they already fleeced in the Lidge deal last year. Something like Lee for Geoff Jenkins and Adam Eaton would be good.

Are you "****" kidding? Do you really think the Astros would take those two scrubs/has-beens for one of the best run producers in the game, despite his huge contract? The Phillies would need to give up some young pitching if the Astros were going to trade Carlos Lee.

Yeah, having a hard time trying to figure out why the 'Stros would be willing to give up everybody now when they started playing very well at the end of last season. Why not just wait til the deadline, see if you're in contention, then trade your studs to teams desperate for a star? (Think Brewers/Indians). If they are truly trying to dump everybody the Braves should look into both Lee and Oswalt.

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Originally posted 01:45 AM ET  11.17 by mindbodyspirit

I think Lee would give up his NTC to go to the World Champion Phillies to replace Burrell, but he isn't going to go to Sabean's Giants. In Houston, they have Tejada, Berkman, and some speed in the line-up. On the Giants, Lee would be the only guy with more than 13 HR in their line-up of has-beens and the untested. Why would he willingly go into baseball purgatory?Houston should trade Berkman to the Angels for 2 young stud starters and at least one more prospect (corner OF or 3b). They could then use their $$ to fortify their bench and pen (instead of paying the Big Unit $15M for a .500 record) and bring on a low-risk/high reward career salvage project like Richie Sexson or a solid hitting former middle IF like Nomar Garciparra/Jeff Kent to man 1b for 2009. They'd cut salary, get younger in the rotation, and field a team better than 2008.

Angels will not give up prospects for Berkman.......